I am in tens of thousands of pounds of unsecured debt (loans/payday loans/overdrafts/credit cards) and I have no chance of being able to pay it off. I have 3 CCJs registered against me and more are bound to follow.
Not only that I am now unemployed so have no income whatsoever except for universal credit
I phoned bankruptcy bureau today and they said that even if I went bankrupt I would still have to pay creditors a monthly amount when my bankruptcy went through. I thought the whole point of bankruptcy was a clean slate.
He suggested instead that I look at an IVA, which means a lower amount, but basically said that I should call him back when I have a job because there is nothing that they can do to help seeing as I have no income.
I am unable to work at the moment due to temporary disability, and I have been wait listed for a 3.5 month resi rehab programme that would mean I can't work during that time anyway, so realistically it is going to be at least 6 months until I can work again.
I don't want to just do nothing with regards to my finances because there will still be letters from creditors and bailiffs going to my parents house which I would like to stop.
My hunch is that bankruptcy would be the best option for me, but I was wondering if anyone has any similar experience or adivce they could give me?
Hi, have you contacted Stepchange the debt charity, they don't charge any fees and work out a payment based on your income minus essential monthly payments. This is who I have turned to with 27k credit card debt and this should stop all interest on your loans.
Worth a look even if it isn't for you.Â
Good luck
thanks @bladesman funnily enough I did go on their site but ended up speaking to the bankruptcy bureau instead.Â
Are you having to pay off the full ÂŁ27k or are part of your debts written off?
Do you mind me asking what your monthly payment is that you have to make? Does it come out of your salary or is it down to you to make the payment yourself
as I say, I don't have any income at all for now and most likely wont for at least 6 months so I am just wondering what the best course of action is for me.
Hi, they create a debt management plan and the payment is based on what money you have left after paying for essentials each month. It will take a long time to pay off, but, as I said doing this has stopped anymore interest being added. If you go on the site you can put in your income, even if only universal credit, and your expenditure and it will tell you your monthly payment. you pay this amount to them each month and they spread it across each debt as a percentage. It does not write off any of my debt.
hi @frogman
truth be told I don't even know what the total of my debts are. I would guess around the ÂŁ40k mark but that could be give or take ÂŁ10k.
I don't think half of them were affordable but not sure what the parameters are/how I could prove it. How did you lodge your complaint and how long did it take for you to get the refunds back? It sounds very interesting that.
I don't even know who I owe money to there are that many creditors.
I feel like for the first time ever I am taking positive steps to overcome the addiction (I've never really wanted to before), I come on here every day, have signed up to Gamstop, applied for rehab and admitted to everyone I know how bad my issues are.
The debts are another issue all together though and they have got worse and worse because I have buried my head in the sand and pretended they dont exist.
Thanks for your help pal
thanks a lot @frogman , so, just to be clear, as far as the complaints to the creditors, did you just have to go to each company individually and lodge a complaint?
I think as far as my debt management goes I probably would benefit from speaking to an independent expert to figure what my best solution is.Â
My credit score is that f****d anyway I don't see how going bankrupt could be much worse than the position I am in anyway.
@frogman
Thanks for being so kind.
Overall I feel better than I have for quite a while.
Even though my life is a complete mess I do feel a sense of relief that I don't have to hide stuff or lie anymore. Gambling has had me in some extremely dark places over the last 5 years and I've recently been led to self harm and suicidal ideas.Â
I'm from a great family, had every advantage in life and earned more money than anyone else I knew my age, but every penny that came my way I gambled away and have totally ruined my relationship with my family.
I'm in an aftercare facility with casts on each leg so I am being looked after properly which is something I'm grateful for.Â
The guilt of what I've done to my now ex girlfriend is what is really upsetting me at the moment. She loved me so much unconditionally and was looking forward to a happy future with no idea of what I had been doing and I was telling her so many lies and did so many terrible things to enable me to keep gambling and she was totally broken when it all hit the fan. Breaks my heart even writing that.
Hi Peter.
You need financial advice and the CAB are very helpful.
You are over the limit for a DRO but bankruptcy isnt the end of the world. If you cant pay it...you cant pay it....its as simple as that really
If you have no reasonable possibility of paying that debt back during the bankruptcy time period, bankruptcy will draw a line under it. You will be assigned a trustee and if you are on UC you wont have to pay much if anything back. You do an expenditure sheet and these companies may be forced to accept ÂŁ1 if anything.
If you are unlikely to earn the income needed to pay that off in the next year then bankruptcy is a strong option if you have no assets you need to keep.Â
Dont worry and stress too much. They lent you unsecured so I dont want be too light about it but they are finance companies and its their risk. Perhaps it will wake some of them up about the amounts they are lending and the risk they take because they well know that debt = misery
You need advice from open organisations like the CAB who dont charge a fee. Beware private companies as they may tell you anything to charge a fee. If you cant make a dent in the debts there is little point starting a debt management plan.
Bankruptcy is there for a reason. When debts are overwhelming your mental health comes first
Best wishes from everyone on the forum
@frogman
thanks for the advice and support. I am trying to work on myself and am glad I have been put on the wait list for residential treatment for Gordon Moody. It's good to read other people's experiences and advice. I dont want to be a skint lonely old man, but if I carry on the way I am that is the only possible outcome.
I would appreciate any help on the complaints procedure, thanks so much for the offer.
Hi  Peter86
I am sorry to hear you are having a difficult time at the moment, but pleased to see our other members are offering so much fantastic advice and support for you.Â
I just wanted to add to what others have said and suggest you call Stepchange or National Debtline. Both would be good organisations to help you work out the best way forward for yourself financially.Â
You don't mention if you have or not but it might be good for you to speak to one of our advisers. They are available 24/7 to offer advice and support with the gambling side of things. You can reach them by calling the HelpLine on 0808 8020 133 or you can use our Livechat.Â
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HI pal, that is really really useful advice, thanks very much.
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If it is the case that if I can't pay anything towards the debts in the first year after 12 months do they then get written off? That was my thinking behind bankruptcy instead of a payment plan because I know realistically I won't have an income for the next 6 months at the very least.
If I get a job after a year has expired what happens then (if you know)? thanks so much again
thanks @forum-admin the members on here are amazing.
I would really like a debt to say these are the options, and these are the repercussions (if that makes sense). I know that I need to work on myself and the addiction, but part of me feels like it would be foolish of me not to try and address the debt, especially since I will most likely not earn any money for the next 6 months and I know how stressful my parents find it when legal letters come and there are knocks at the door
Hi, can I ask about stepchange I really want to speak to them, I have credit cards and 2 x unsecured loans but I am frightened they will send bailiffs to my house. Â I just want one payment and no more worry.
thanks
@frogman
you are a legend this has been so helpful.Â
I earnt gross about ÂŁ55k a year and was able to borrow a lot, but it was at the stage where my loan repayments were almost exceeding my net income (and that's even before paying rent/transport etc).
am I right in thinking I can get all the information on the loans I took out from my credit file? Honestly there has been that many I wouldn't know where to start. I genuinely think if I emailed every unsecured lender there is I will have taken out loans with about 90% of them.
@frogman
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boss mate nice one. it's asubject access request isn't it bascically. I'm going to try and get out of bed and into my chair tomorow and get cracking on this. This is one small comfort of not having a job in that I just need to try and use this time to work on this as much as possible.
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