The sure way of getting nothing from something

Just replied to your post on the new members. Great to see you have a diary set up already, all the best.

Thanks Steve,I'm going to use this diary to help me along the way.
All avenues to gamble blocked and I mean really blocked,that's 10 % of the battle won -a help, but changing the thought process of a 43 year old that has gambled since he was 14 is the big part.
I've all the incentive in the world - 2 great kids;loving partner nice house,kick up the a**e is what I need.

Day 1 painless, -a bit degrading excludIng at a local bookies in front of 2 young girls - but a small price to pay in saving thousands and who knows saving my life?

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Hello you sound like me talking to me i have an exceptional talent at being able to see my days racing and football selections turn into good money then blow it all and more on totally random sports events like american horse racing and so on
Its very hard to pack it in and even harder to understand why we self destruct so easily from top dog to mug punter in the blink of an eye good luck on ur journey

Don't see that as degrading at all pal. They'll see that at wise. They'll see all the hundreds of people coming in doing all their cash in for infinity but you're out the loop now! Well done pal.

Nothing degrading, if anything teaching youngsters the dangers of compulsive gambling.

When I was gambling, I was always lecturing the youngsters watching me play the fruit machines, telling them, never ever to allow themselves to get addicted to them. I remember watching the adults playing when I was a kid and I wish someone had lectured me. I hope that at least one of my many lectures got through to some of them.

Thanks for the posts and support loose cannon,steve 70 and change.
A busy day today,sun shining always makes u feel better.

I've done a lot reading the forums;I will get round to posting and hopefully supporting others in time,just need to find my feet again first.
To be honest no urges today,I know they will come but I really would have to go to extreme lengths to get a bet on.

Filling the big gambling hole has always been my problem in the past,but I gotta young family and lots of plans for the future,plans that have always been pushed to one side because gambling.

The future is already looking better.

Well done keep going

Keep strong Albert, think of all those great things you can do with your family, when you have a lot more cash and time available to spend on and with them.

albert wrote: I'm back here again,another sure system goes belly up, financialy I'm obviously worse off but I'm more P****d off that I let this addiction control my life again. I tend to go round circles,I quit for days - lose - self exclude,then when the pain lessens the circle starts again,the only saving grace is I never completely blow the kitty due to barriers I put up whilst I'm abstaining. Ive recently accepted I can never gamble on the internet- my chosen gambling was sports mainly cricket and horse racing,I would lose all my stake on a random basketball game on the Phillipines before the horse I really fancied run - no self control. Through all the misery gambling has caused me I still held on to the hope it could pay. I've been following a tipster for the past year,amazingly he has shown a decent profit;trouble being I could not just stick to his tips. Even tho he made me money - or stake money,he kept me in the game. My latest feeble attempt was to up the stakes on his selections,that has coincided with his worst run which ultimately left me chasing. I've had enough,I'm ready to quit for good - a day at a time. I've accepted I can't win cos I can't stop. I don't believe that anyone is more self excluded than myself,I bombard all bookies with permanent self exclusion requests.I'm self excluded from all big bookies within 25 miles,my last outlet an independent bookies whom I'm off to see this morning. I've no debit/credit card,paypal account cancelled,Ive a regular payment set up for my partners account - I've been on this recovery path for years time to start a different approach. One day at a time.

Hi Albert, You've made some positive steps. Well done mate. Rooting for you as you keep adding those layers of protection. To you. Tri

Thanks for the support triangle,steve and loose cannon,another busy day.

I stopped buying papers a couple of years ago,which helped;I've just cancelled sky - which helps.

I never even look at the race cards on the internet,the only thing that keeps me clinging onto gambling is this poxy tipster I was following;I couldn't help but check his results the last 2 days;typically more winners - I know if I'd backed them I'd still be in the game - there is no end game; I just wish he would lose.

I know I should stop checking his selections,I will try.

Day 3 no gambling.

Albert i like the sound of u more everyday ur just like me i have bets fired into my phone from a mate everyday i think its the reason i nearly slipped back into self destruct mode typically over the last three weeks our stuff has cleaned up to the point where the number punter in our click has had not one but two betting accounts closed by mr winstons mates BUT for u and me my friend it would never happen as we lack the self control to make it pay i gave up checkin the results but me mate tells me in conversation how he is doin and its not a problem as recovery starts and can only progress with honesty and people like u and me can not stick to the programme so we r better off not doing the things that set us off on the wrong path if ur going to keep checking the results yes u missed a winner but u had winners all year and its cost u a fortune just like myself their is a mug punter inside you and i and if you let him out its gonna cost u a fortune just like me i hope u find this helpfull as i have found it helpfull to myself just typing it as i to have the same mug punter inside me just bursting to get out

Good luck keep going its for the best in the long run

Thanks loose cannon;I have read your diary - can see the similarities.
It really is the only thing pulling me back to gambling.
I know I'm useless when picking my own selections,I've accepted that -fobt/casinos/fruit machines - no problem.

I no I've got to let go,stop checking this tipsters results.

It did make me laugh- Last Thursday I decided it was my last hurrah- I was just going to stick to his selections ВЈ20 per point - I.e-£40 on a 2pt win etc.
He's up at least 200 pts since I've followed him. Thursday he lost 2 pts;Friday 7 points - I didn't chase even tho I'm ВЈ180 down. Saturday his worse day ever 12 pts down! - I'm now ВЈ420 down. Inevitably after a few drinks I chase,win back ВЈ200 but couldn't resist chasing the other ВЈ220 and end up £510 down.

I couldn't wait - time to quit. Sunday he lost a point,Monday he won 2 and yesterday he won 10.

He will probably win in the long run,but for every day he loses I should times that figure by tenfold - it would be the realistic figure I would lose after chasing.

Your right,I've got to forget about him;it will pull me back to gambling.
Ive just scratched of the cv2 number from my new debit card,I had to order 1 last week so I could withdraw cash from the bank. Barriers back up.

Just for today I shall not gamble.

good morning albert,

just had a read through your diary. a lot of your story sounds familiar to my past, so i have been there.

i just wanted to wish you the very best of luck and i shall look forward to your future entires in the diary.
Congratulations on your progress so far, 1 day at a time.
Ben

Albert my own advice to urself is stay out the game for a while clear ur head and re gather ur own thoughts i came on here not thinking i have a gambling problem but time out and reading the diaries and having two online chat sessions have made me realise i do have a problem after all its not normal to sit up all night betting on american and australian horse racing losing what i had skiffully won and then more chasing it back

Im feeling all the better for being honest about it and will start to feel financially better as weeks go by as from now on i dont set aside a portion of my small income for pointless so called fun gambling

There are alot of cliches banded around in this forum which dont work outside this forum either and the only things that really matter or will set u off on any direction u want go is if ur not honest enough to meet the problem head on and except it is a problem then you wont beat the problem for my own case i dont fully connect to the cliches thrown around in here i had an edge i know i do and just because ive got it wrong time and again it doesnt mean i cant do it theres just a secondary ulta ego who is preventing from doing it and he is the reason im here i need help to break him and for the first time in three years im ready to admit it for my own sannity

Good luck really do take a break talk as much as possible be honest to urself as for all the good will in here everybodys first and only thought in their early days should be to help themselves change for the better it helps to talk read and chat to the people available