I m lucky, but i know i will get unlucky soon.

Hi Salaz, welcome to the Forum,

That big win is sadly doomed to be lost at some point my friend. It is one of the very hardest things in the world to stop on the back of a big win.

If you want to keep it at all costs and stop gambling, put blocking software like Gamblock and Betfilter on your PC so you can't access them under any circumstances. Then stop completely for six months - this will give you every chance to use and appreciate it for what it is.

It is very encouraging that you realise where you may be headed. Roulette can give huge wins and huge losses in a matter or minutes - I had huge periods of this, sometimes winning £7000 at a time but over a period of several years, I was £250,000 down in total. Thankfully, I have now stopped for a period of four years.

There is no possible way that you can win money from Roulette long-term, you would be the first person in history to achieve that; if you have masssively good luck, then at some point, you will have massively bad luck and that will hit you like a freight train my friend, which will lead you to spending money you don't have.

You are better than this my friend, you deserve more out of life than be taken in by something that will only cause you great pain and misery in the long run. Put the blocks in place as I said and then try to find something positive and genuinely uplifting to fill your time.

I wish you well my friend, you can come through this. Take care.

JamesP

Thank you for your reply, i know that, been there seen that... big wins like 4k and then lost all of them... the fact that i m lucky is that i had more wins than losses till now, BUT i KNOW this will not keep this way, i don t have illusions that i can beat the bookie.

That s why i dont trust myself, but the software is not an option, i m way too good with computers ( is my job ) to be stopped by a software, and i have access to many pcs in my home-work... so that s not an option... i NEED to stop playing even a cent on roulette.

What i ve seen about my self is, that i m not gonna blow all my online bank account this past 1-2 years, i ll have a loss of max 1000 euro and then stop... feeling sad etc for days... this show me that i have made a move to the right direction, i stop when i see that if i lose more it will effect my life, but i need that next step to not even gamble a single cent.

You're very welcome Salaz. This is a great quote about luck:

“Luck has a way of evaporating when you lean on it.”

The good thing is that you recognise this and accept it - you can build on that.

If blocking software is not an option, then you have to focus hard on your urges my friend. They are only temporary, they soon pass; it's getting used to them, preparing for them in these early days until you are strong enough to cope completely.

You have some control - you need to take that to the next level my friend. Gamblers are generally emotionally vulnerable people - the sadness you feel for days is very emotive of that. This is no bad thing because we are generally more open-minded and reactive to genuine things in life that give us real pleasure, it's about finding that place where gambling doesn't really mean too much anymore.

After gambling for twenty years, I thought there was absolutely no chance of me getting to that stage but I did and I have for four years. The first few months are the most difficult by far but it's a great short-term goal to aim for.

I wish you well my friend. Take care,

JamesP

Thank you again for one more nice reply, i see you help a lot of people in this forum...

Yes i have accepted that, and i know that the money i win is just a loan from the bookie, it happened so so many times, thank god i used some of them to buy me some cool tvs etc. BUT I KNOW if i continiu like this i will have a big losing streak and then i ll be in debt and i dont want that.

The good think is that for over 2 months i havent gambled drunk, that was a big problem for me because as i said in my 1st post i have almost all my money on online bank, i had a great night out, i went back home and then gambled drunk, and the next morning i had a bad feeling i lost a lot of money, and i open my pc and i see -1000 euro... some times it was a win but... it was bad... now i dont do that at all... that s a start.

i Haven t gambled for like a week, after my last nice win, only some football low bets that i will cut them too, never was addicted to that anyway, only on roulette-blackjack, which i found my self playing some times 600 euro in a ball/hand which is like almost my half day job salary...

I ll keep going like this and i hope that i wont have the urge soon... Also the forum that i found helps a lot... i saw that poor guy that won 100k and lost them in a day, i was so sad for him, because i remember 2 years ago, i had some win streaks 2k-3k ( with very low money in ) and then one day i had 4,3k win with just 150+bonus on a casino ( i had to play and play to get the bonus covered ) i was so happy, i called a friend i told him i have a 300 euro gift for him for christmas. and i was about to order tickets for my gf to surprise her... and then in the evening, same day, i said... come one, lets make it 4500.. round number... oh god the bank was at 1500.... in 3 minutes... and then again 4300, cursed number... in 2 minutes it was 0... i felt so bad that even though i lost just 150euro from my pocket, and i was in so bad mood even though i had 2 big wins before that, i forgot that, the feeling was the sadness of the last loss, i was empty for a week for that loss... so whats the point of gambling? You will feel that WOW moment some times but then in the 1st loss you ll fee so sad... it s not worth it.

i came home drunk right now, i said to my self as a test that i ll gamble 100 euro only on BJ and go sleep whatever happens, lost 30... is nothing and i stopped, no urge to chase this loss, i really did this to prove that i can stop, i was hoping to lose.

edit: i woke up to work, and i m very cool, no urge to win that 30 euro back ( its a very small ammount but still other time i couldnt leave if i was losing ).

hi Salaz i've found really good blocking software called txnogam i couldnt find obvious ways around it, i turned off system restore on XP before installing it, if you google it you can dl a free 28 day trial see if you can get around it. It allows you to set a 2 day or 5 day cooling off period so you can uninstall then have to wait 48 or 120 hours before you can gamble again, v useful after a big win when complacent or to avoid chasing losses. Otherwise set deposit limits on your account with the sites you use, & dont change them. Remember the house will always win in the long run, they don't exist to pay you money, they're just looking to exploit people like you. Remember the mind space that gambling occupies, you sound a little obsessed i'm fairly certain this is detracting from other areas of life you could fill. The more gambling fills that void, the more there is a void for it to fill.

i agree with you, i m just trying to be sure i can control it before i say i quit, i mean it when i say i wanted to lose yesterday, just a small ammount, to see my reaction.

Hi Salaz, thank you, yes I have been a part of this Forum for over six years now and have visited virtually every day since.

You have to try and forget the ups and downs my friend, the amounts, the losses, the numbers are peppered all over your posts - it is no bad thing to get all of your feelings out, but it is counter-productive to stopping gambling because these are the thoughts that you need to forget.

A lot of people see no harm in small bets, or betting on things they believe they have "control" over. The problem is not what they are, but what they are likely to lead to - if you bet small and have a bad run, you will want more, it won't give you what you want and all you will do is seek something more.

Control doesn't exist - as I said, gamblers are generally emotionally vulnerable people; you might be ok with small bets 8 or 9 times out of ten, but on those other times, where you may feel down or have a bad day, you will lose control.

Sweep everything you know and have experienced under the carpet my friend - by trying to control it, you are not accepting who you are - there is no shame in admitting you have something in your life which you can't control because most people have that facet in their life over something.

Gambling is fake, false world with fake sensations and feelings. It's nothing, it doesn't exist - you gain nothing that will ever improve your life or make you truly happy. You are better than this my friend, better than being made a fool of by something that isn't really there.

JamesP

Goodmorning,

I played again, 50 euro on footy live betting when i got home... then slept, it P****s me off cause i didnt even remember that until i woke up and saw the missing 50 euro... I must stop opening my pc when i get back home.

Yeah ok i didnt played more after the loss, but as James said, i must completely remove this habbit out of my life. I know i can do this, i did that for 2 months period a lot of times without any problem.

as an update, haven t gambled anything the last 4-5 days, i m ok with it, no big urges... i m keeping strong!

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slipped again, same problem, got out had fun, and gambled on sports, lost 200 (from mobile ) which is VERY ok, but the good think is i came home and didnt touched the online roulette and i slept like nothing happened... i find my self controlling my losses which was very hard for me... 200 loss is nothing compared to the 2-3k that i would lose if i was chasing losses... so i need to stop betting when i m out and a bit drunk.

Hi Salaz,

There is nothing ok about that 200 my friend - as I have said previously, it doesn't matter if it was 2000, or 20,000 - it's what it will lead to that is the problem.

You can control your losses, but 200 is a loss, a big one and I can guarantee that at some point in the near future that will lead to another 2-3k and a lot more besides.

I mean this very respectfully my friend but I don't think you are taking this seriously, or really want to stop. If people are spending a lot of time trying to support you as well as offering advice and you are not taking it, as well as saying things like "I need to stop betting when i'm out and a bit drunk", then you really have to ask yourself while you are here because, at the moment, you are not coming across as someone who wants to stop gambling.

Accept that there is something in your life you can't control - it's poison to you. You must stop, 100%, forever, for good. It's understandable that you slip because we all have at some point, what's not making any sense is that you want to continue when you are throwing your whole life away and are facing years of misery and debt to come.

Maybe you haven't hit rock bottom as yet, maybe you have to lose everything to face it. Either way, you must stare this affliction right in the face and say "Yes, I am out of control, I am an addict and I intend to stop, today, without exception" - I don't feel that you are at that stage from how you write my friend.

JamesP

i really want to stop at all, but it is hard because i have this money online, its a bit hard to explain to you my part time job, but i need to have that money online. So at any time i have money available to gamble... and when i m drunk its a bit hard to not place even one bet. i ll take small steps, my next goal is to not bet a single euro for a week, i hope i ll do that. But the way i m talking is that i m casino free for some weeks now, that was my big problem not sports betting. But now i ll try to stop betting on sports too