Hiya,Ā
so after finding out my partner of 20 yrs ( gambling most of that) has lied yet again heās now acting like Iām the one in the wrong .. posted a story a few days ago but in short he asked me to get Ā£40o from my mum to āfixāthe car but lied and was going into betting shops again ..Iām beyond broken because he swore down he had stopped and I had to start letting my guard down and to trust him again. After not speaking to him for 2 weeks a row has just broke out.. he has now self excluded himself for 18 months from betting shops but thinks thatās him sorted⦠he isnāt a bit remorseful and sed well itās done now and Iāve put measures in place to stop me going!!!?!? What do you want me to say?? o*g! Ā Heās done this countless times ⦠heās now blaming me saying Iāve probably drove him to betting and The relationship wasnāt great anyway⦠heās right there cos I always had a gut feeling he was hiding something! Coupled with the constant sneaking and lies I have became resentful towards him ..Heās always pleading hard up and hasnāt bought nothing new for the home in years⦠like nothing!!! A Bed and small sofa is the only thing in 20 years⦠Iāve just told him the counsellor sed that Ā youāre in the grip of addiction and heās just sed⦠oh really!?? Well did you tell her Iāve just gave you Ā£200 for the kids school shoes!!!!!!! He has but itās actually the first time in a very long time heās contributed ANYTHING!!! Heās still trying to make out heās doing ok and supports his family⦠he doesnāt and squirms out of anything that needs paying!!
Sorry itās another bumbling post but does anyone else have a cg that still finds ways of deflecting the blame and making himself look like he isnāt that bad!!!Ā
Ā Iām shattered and struggling and heās walking around like heās done an amazing thing by self excluding again!! He did it cos he was CAUGHT!
please someone tell me and not mad!! Ā
bless you, that must be a hard one to takeā¦. Have you tried talking to him about it properly? Does he do it online? Have you tried telling him you want to be in control of the money from now on itās just a thought maybe it would help him. It seems to me like he doesnāt care and doesnāt want to own or face up to what heās been doing and that he has a problem and thatās the worst part of it. I really hope you can get things sorted out. Always here if you need a chat x
Hi Joshua,
Thanks for replying..Iām finding hard to even look at him at the minute I told him itās over for good ..itās only been a few months since I caught him betting online and he sed then that he would closed his accounts and would I give him one more chance to prove he cared.. and here I am again. I feel like Iāve wasted the best years of my life with him.. (obviously our two boys are the only good thing thatās came from the relationship) the rest feels like one big lie! I told him last time too itās the lies that hurtā¦as far as I know itās never been massive amounts of money⦠although I canāt be sure about that either now .
Hes always been secretive about money we have separate bank accounts and Iāve never ever seen a bank statement or a pay slip.. I think weāve lived separate lives for longer than I thought and looking back we probably werenāt that close.. he was and is just sooo sneaky.. it almost feels like a weights been lifted.
I donāt want a partner I have to mother and constantly check up on and control his money!! I wanted someone whoās got my back and pulls me up when Iām feeling down.. which isnāt very often cos Iām such a positive happy and outgoing person normally Ā ā¦he is the complete opposite to me ⦠and that gap and the addiction has sadly ended the relationship.. Iām not sure where to go or what to do with myself.. feel like Iām in a nightmare.. Thankyou for listening to me prattle on ☺️ X
I know exactly how you feel...my husband has been trying to quit betting for 8 years now & every time he just goes back to it. We have two young kids & I just feel sorry for them as this is effecting them. Once he gets obsessed with the betting, he literally has no care for what is going on around him & has no time for anyone.
The part you said about separate lives is exactly the same for us. My husband never shows me his payslips or bank statements whereas I have always been open about my finances.Ā
Reading the posts on this forum has made me realise how all the behaviours I have seen in my husband are the same for anyone who has a gambling addiction. At least I know I'm not going crazy & he really does have a big problem.Ā
Good luck with everything. I hope things get better for you. x
Hi confused!Ā
Thankyou for the reply.. Itās horrible isnāt it?? Iāve stayed so long because they are very good at working their way back .. all the promises and how things will change.. Iām just so so tired on living like this. The last time he sed he was going to stop I told he needed to channel some passion into his life and family but heās very lethargic in general. He started growing veg but then quickly he decided there was money to be made in hanging baskets!! And bought 8!!! But denied he was wanting to sell themā¦but I know him and his lies better than he knows himself! Ā Donāt get me wrong heās a good worker at work and never off sick but then again hes worked in the same place since he was 18 and itās not long hours.. 8 til 4.30 monday to Friday. However itās a different story when heās home⦠has his tea and a two hour bath ( probably online betting in there) then watches tv all night til bedtime⦠no diy or days out with the kids unless I nag ā¦or give him the petrol money!!! Heās always trying to claw money somehowā¦itās horrible and I probably didnāt realise how bad itās got until I started to write it down in this forum?Ā
Do you feel like giving him another chance? And is he remorseful and sorry? I often wonder if heās more sorry heās been caught out that anything else.Ā
big hugs⦠itās sad thereās so many of us in this nightmare xx Take care of you and your kids x
Really sorry to read this but iām glad youāre able to use the forum as an avenue to vent out and connect with others who have similar experiences. Personally, it sounds to me that heās not ready to quit yet and unfortunately you canāt force a compulsive gambler to stop, and usually they will only want to stop when theyāre at their rock bottom. For me the true measure that heās ready to quit is he lists down a strategy plan, is proactive about it and follows it up with action. This should always include (at least initially) someone else managing or monitoring his finances. This person should be someone who is strict and he canāt manipulate. His credit report should also be accessible in case heās racking up debts/loans.
Until heās ready to quit, you need to focus on protecting yourself and your finances. And perhaps reflect on the situation - will you be ok to wait until heās ready?
I wish you all the best.
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Hi pep1952,
Thanks for the reply.. I think your right because he only even makes a small chance and itās always when heās been caught out! Within the last 2years heās barred himself from the betting shops after I found betting slipsā¦then he got found out again .. and closed his online accounts ( so he reckons?) and this time he promised faithfully things were going to get better and he had stopped⦠annnd yeah here I am.. AGAIN. I know itās a illness but heās making me ill and need to think about our boys and the future now ⦠I canāt spend my life watching and wondering if heās back doing it!Ā
I have a good network of family and friends although some donāt yet know the full extent yet.
im thinking a need to see a family solicitor/lawyer too.. the house was mine when we met 20 yrs ago .. in my name only but a few years later we did a remortgage and added him so we could get some work done to it..and of course we were happy and planning a future together.
fast forward to now .. all the other household bills are in my name⦠and everything comes out of my account . I deal with anything to do with the home and family. In previous posts I mentioned that he doesnāt really pay for much Ā£150 towards the mortgage ( it was Ā£200 but heās took Ā£50 a month off cos I bought our son a pc on his credit card!! Yup our son!!! ) and he also gives me  £6 a week water bill and Ā£100 council tax a month and Ā .. the rest of his pay is his basically . He will buy a frugal food shop twice a month but itās basic and he tries to skimp where he can!Ā
Iām rambling again ⦠but you get the idea .. worse thing is he just doesnāt seem bothered at all that itās over and Iām struggling with the aftermath. Iām still trying to get my head round the face that itās been yet another lie! Iām pretty sure heās waiting for me to calm down and then he will try the usual story again to get me back!!Ā
Thankyou for all your advice it is much appreciated and helps a lot ?x
To be honest my husband doesn't even seem sorry..not even the fake kind either..just acts like it's a non issue & I'm making a big deal out of nothing.
My husband is the same..comes home from work and either hogs the TV (doesn't even let the kids watch cartoons cos he takes the remote) or is glued to his mobile or laptop...it's such a waste of life. I mean there's so many things he could be doing in that time. It's like he is going to work to pay for his gambling addiction...not for us his family but for his gambling.
I really hope there's a light at the end of the tunnel but it doesn't seem like it at the moment.
You'd think with the whole covid situation everyone would re-assess what is important in their life but I guess some people still don't get it.
Oh they sound so alike! I feel the same as you⦠he acts completely soulless and like heās about 90! I look at him and think wow you have the simplest life work tv bet sleep repeat! Heās got absolutely no get up and go or passion for anything( apart from making money /betting ) and Iām the total opposite ..well I was but very slowly I feel like heās drained it away! Even the kids donāt ask him for money or to do anything because dad wonāt let us or dad Ā just too grumpy⦠his relationship is really bad with my oldest heās 15 and he hates him! The little one is very forgiving even though he is snappy and unreasonable with him sometimesā¦he still loves his dad bless him .Ā
itās so hard because we still have to live together but I canāt bear to look at him ⦠heās in my youngests single bed at the min but he wasnāt happy ā¦he was shocked when I sed we can no longer share a bed ā¦he sed āwell you can sleep in the small bed thenā!?!? Erm why the hell should I? I replied.. āIāve done nothing wrong!!!.
I really hope things will work out ⦠but I canāt see a way forward now .. thereās so much deceit and heartbreak xxĀ
Thanks again for listening I never thought Iād be able to talk with someone would has the same problems!! X
I know what you mean...I always find myself doubting everything my husband says..the lies have been too often that I now no longer trust anything he says.
Maybe the tough love will help your other half realise what is truly important to him.Ā Have you noticed any change?
I think with my husband I have let it go on for so long now that he just assumes I'll just live with it. But that's not how it works. I have to think of my kids first and the way things are going, they would be better off without him. He is ruining our futures. He wasn't this bad when we got married the first couple of years but since then his addiction has become worse. And he is always coming up with money making ideas and then totally becomes oblivious to everything. What he doesn't realise is that there is no way to make quick easy money. In this life we have to work hard for what we want.
Yup your so right there is no easy way out! Makes money is about working for it no easy way to do it⦠today has been no different to the past couple of weeks ⦠itās horrible ā¦the atmosphere in the house is dismal ..well for me it is⦠he seems completely indifferent to the whole situation which is reallly getting my back up! He is totally fine with the situation weāre in! I almost feel like heās thinking .. oh well Iāve been caught out again nowt I can do about it now so I will just give up until she backs down ⦠he canāt say sorry or start the conversation itās always me who wants to talk ⦠ but I really canāt see a way back and the more he acts like heās done nothing wrong the more I feel like this is really over now.. if I start talking to him he literally just shuffles about and says nothing or gets really defensive and says itās my fault!!! Itās doing my already battered mental health No good living like this but he wonāt move out. Iām well n truly stuck!Ā
Oh Thankyou for listening again .. itās nice to talk to someone who just gets it .. take care xx
Yup your so right there is no easy way out! Makes money is about working for it no easy way to do it⦠today has been no different to the past couple of weeks ⦠itās horrible ā¦the atmosphere in the house is dismal ..well for me it is⦠he seems completely indifferent to the whole situation which is reallly getting my back up! He is totally fine with the situation weāre in! I almost feel like heās thinking .. oh well Iāve been caught out again nowt I can do about it now so I will just give up until she backs down ⦠he canāt say sorry or start the conversation itās always me who wants to talk ⦠ but I really canāt see a way back and the more he acts like heās done nothing wrong the more I feel like this is really over now.. if I start talking to him he literally just shuffles about and says nothing or gets really defensive and says itās my fault!!! Itās doing my already battered mental health No good living like this but he wonāt move out. Iām well n truly stuck!Ā
Oh Thankyou for listening again .. itās nice to talk to someone who just gets it .. take care xx
Honestly it is the same here..we haven't split up or anything but we are not speaking to each other properly. We only talk to each other if necessary & you're right it does feel like an awful atmosphere. He acts as if I have done something wrong when it is him who has done something wrong.Ā
So now I'm just going to focus on the kids and try not to get too worked up about all this. Although I know this time he must have gotten himself into a massive debt. A few months ago he was spending up to £1000 in one day on bets ? I don't even want to imagine how much he owes the bank.
Thanks for listening too. It honestly sounds like we are going through similar situation. Let's hope they can sort themselves out..if not for us then at least for their kids. x
Exactly you would think the kids would be a reason to stop ⦠Iām the same I feel like our horror stories are very similar⦠do you think he would ever starting talking and look like he really cares?..without a nudge from you? and also the experts said that you should take Ā total control of his money and also get credit reports.. I donāt think mine will ever agree to that and also if Iām honest⦠I would probably resent it.. I want a relationship where we care trust and respect each other .. thereās non of that here.. Iām not sure there ever has been xĀ
Exactly you would think the kids would be a reason to stop ⦠Iām the same I feel like our horror stories are very similar⦠do you think he would ever starting talking and look like he really cares?..without a nudge from you? and also the experts said that you should take Ā total control of his money and also get credit reports.. I donāt think mine will ever agree to that and also if Iām honest⦠I would probably resent it.. I want a relationship where we care trust and respect each other .. thereās non of that here.. Iām not sure there ever has been xĀ
I doubt it...I mean it's been over a week and he doesn't seem bothered to me. It's like he has no emotions anymore. It's like he is not even alive.
I tried the controlling finances when I first found out about his gambling. It worked for some time & then eventually I stopped checking the accounts because it felt like I was babysitting him or something. I thought he had overcome his addiction so I stopped checking. He started up again at some point & I didn't even realise. And now if I ask to see accounts, he flat out refuses or ignores me.
He is completely insane. He is obviously in so much debt but thinks he can bet his way out of it...it's like hello genius betting is what got you into this mess, so how will it help you get out of it??? ? Honestly the stupidity just gets me every time. It's like I have a third child. God help me...Ā
Hiya,
yes same in this house I stupidly trusted again and again over the years although he has never gave me access to anything to do with his finances⦠Iām really starting to get upset again tonight.. i thought I was doing ok. Heās came in tonight and got in the bath got dressed up and went out. Heās done this a few times in the last couple of weeksā¦itās stressing me out ⦠Iām heartbroken that he can just get on with day to day life and not give a backward glance at the carnage heās caused! How can he just sweep it all under the carpet and get on with it knowing heās lost his family life??Ā
although Ā he probably thinks he hasnāt because heās refusing to move out but still wants to carry on without thinking about his family? He was even singing to himself the other day like heās happy!!?!? Ā I wonder if anyone else on here thinks this is strange behaviour and does it look like heās bothered at what heās done? Is he ready to give up gambling for good? Iām so down tonight.. 20 Years of my life wasted on him. Itās just so painful to watch him not give a d**n. Ā
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