Months of misery and ecstasy_Advice Please

Hi and welcome to the forum.

I hope you will keep talking it through and reach out for all the help and advice.

You are glossing over the main issue though. You are here as you clearly have a problem. There is a known early phase where you just want to stop losing and I dont think you have realised before how addicted you are. Its a complex addiction based on all sort of things. The fix for many is just playing and temporary escape.

Pray tell us about an income scheme of 100 a day. Even Einstein said there is NO system on roulette. If there was nobody would go to work and I know a few teachers and nurses who would like to hear what your magic scheme is.

You need to face the reality about the house edge and the real odds. Plus its set up to be addictive and there is no shame in admitting that it got to you. Your list of losses tell the true story and its those that you need to focus on

When you learn about the addiction you will realise its a devasting form of mind control and we end up not able to trust ourselves

Gambling is an irresponsible act and I dont even agree that its entertainment. If you keep gambling it will only get worse.

Being gamble free is a wonderful feeling and I hope you will join us. I win every day because I dont gamble.

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

Hi Joydivider,

I completely agree with you. Never in my life I ever believed gambling is the way to earn a living. First time in Singapore, it was purely a conincidence. If truth to be told, I did go back once to recover the money but I did not win. I stopped and later moved back to the UK. The trip to Vegas was controlled and based upon Sinapore experience.

My recent lapse with online casino was because of personal problems and boredom. The initial wins were extremely addictive.

Regarding 100GBP/day scheme, I agree there is no scheme or pattern in an ideal game. I think roulette is more about discipline and mental control which clearly many of us (certainly me) don't seem to have when we think we do. Or, it is the game that control your mind to draw up all these conclusions.

For the past few days, I have been thinking my wins became wins when i showed control and my losses became loss when I did not know when to stop and started betting crazy while chasing losses. Betting 2000 on high numbers in desperation feels so stupid. If I had to bet 2000, i should have spread it on the board. Also, I lost because of greed. When it gave me chances to break even and leave, I did not and paid for it.

Putting that aside I have not gone back for a week now and it feels wonderful physically and mentally. Yes, I am still thinking about my losses but I am trying to talk myself out of it by sharing my feelings with my wife and sometimes seeing the loss videos on Youtube to make myself understand I can very much lose more if I ever try again. More importantly, I need to save to build back my savings and focus on skill based earnings instead of a wheel.

On the psyche side of things, a part of me do wants to return, win, and leave on a high. But, I know it will not be possible now because my losess are quite deep for me to risk a similar amount again. It is more about feeling or getting the control or showing that I have that control. But, I do not think i need to prove it. I just need to know it and the biggest control is in not playing anymore.

You sound like a gambler thinking he can win by being clever your mind is not clear you lost because you can not stop roulette is terrible add all the numbers on the roulette board and you get the devil say no more

Hi Twinboy,

Yes! Reading it back does make me feel that way. I am trying my best to stay away from this business for rest of my life.

Twinboys wrote:

You sound like a gambler thinking he can win by being clever your mind is not clear you lost because you can not stop roulette is terrible add all the numbers on the roulette board and you get the devil say no more

Tornsoldier, you sound as though you are still preoccupied with it. The truth about roulette just as with other forms of gambling is that no matter how 'disciplined' you are, you will still lose, as the mathematics of the game are against you. Also if the ball has finished on red twenty times in a row the odds of the next spin being red are still the same. It will only begin to even up - assuming a fair wheel / dealer - in the extreme long run, otherwise do you really think the casinos would still be offering even money on black ?

I'm concerned that you still think there are valid short-term patterns, that you will win 'if disciplined' etc, when neither are true or real. I think your ego is offended that you have been beaten by this and it is this primarily that drives a part of you to think about returning to it, as you are mortified that you have been beaten, not because of the money you have lost but because your pride has been dented. Therefore it's very important that you be very modest now & hold up the white flag - surrender, accept defeat and move on to other things in life before you are further defeated, which is inevitable. The numbers on a roulette wheel add up to 666, the Number of the beast in the Bible's book of Revelation.

Hi Davey,

Thank you so much for your cut and dry words. I think you are right. I am hurt because i have lost. And, yes, the idea of short-term patterns tries to lure me back in. In fact, I did yesterday but the only difference was I played the "try for free/demo" mode where they give you number of attempts. Within few trials, I could see the money go up and down, felt bored, and quit the game. I have accepted my defeat and now trying to stay away from it

Hi Torn

It’s never been roulette or the casino for me but sports. Reading through your story though I can see similarities in your thought patterns to my own. It’s clear you haven’t still accepted that you can’t gamble ever again. I know this because I haven’t truly accepted this until now. It was my New Years resolution to be GF for 2018, I made 70 days. I lost my job, tried to make a day’s wages. Won about that but obvs couldn’t walk away. Kept on “playing” until it was all gone. I’m now skint until Friday when I’ll get about £250, most of which will need to go out to bills. Like you my ego is hurt that I’ve allowed this beat me multiple times over. I’m competitive, I want to go back and land a cheeky hook and leave feeling like I’ve had the last laugh. We can’t have the last laugh though, gambling is a mugs game.

Why do intelligent individuals who are aware of this fact have to repeatedly make the same mistake until they finally realise enough is enough.

I vow to stop playing with my money like it’s a toy. I’m 22 and have gambled since the day it became legal for me pretty much. It’s claimed multiple thousands and consistently had a large negative effect on my well being. I’ve tried in the past to forget about loses or chalk them up as something else. At the end of the day I’ve lost, I can not beat the system and i’ll be an idiot if I try to again. No “one last try”, I simply don’t enjoy it anymore. The emotional rollercoaster a heavy session takes you on is horrible.

movingforward2017,

Hi mate! Yes, it is a curse and even worse for folks like us. Somehow I just do not enjoy the betting on sports, waiting for 90 minutes. I am trying to distract myself by being more involved at my work and at home. And, I have realised it is not more work I am doing but the work I have been neglecting for staring in my phone at a spinning wheel telling me "I am the winner of winners". Just like there is now low, I suppose there is no high enough for the likes of us. Although even when I am writing this, I feel like I need to get back in there. Die trying. But, it will be soul crushing.

You are 22 (I am 32), so you have got a lot of time ahead to make up for your losses in the right manner. Save my friend. The emotional rollercoaster is unexplainable. I never felt such a thing by other means I have tried. Strangely enough you feel you have got wings even when you have just won 100 after 1000. My real frustration lies in knowing about all this, staying away from it until last month, and then not stopping at the right time.

I now tell myself may be it was better to experience this now than at 40 when it would have hurt even a lot more.

Wish you all the best man!

Stay away from it and stay healthy!