2015 Challenge

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hi, today is day 12 for me. Sickening that 3 weeks ago I would have been about day 210. The nasty thing thing is that when I stay away for long periods and become happy again, the shame I feel about gambling again causes me to chase the losses harder than I ever did before, which undies all the good work (at least financially) 5 times worse than ever before.

But it by next Christmas I will have a full year done and more importantly almost a calendar year for the first time in 10 years. And who knows what other excitements might come along the way!

 
Posted : 30th December 2014 12:22 pm
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Hi everyone. I've checked in for the last time for the 2014 challenge. I'm here checking in for the 2015 challenge.

Wishing you all a fantastic gamble free new year 😀

Stay strong everyone and remember together we can do it xxx

 
Posted : 30th December 2014 1:07 pm
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Hi Phil

I think I am at 37 days on the 31st December.

Cheers

Glads Dad

 
Posted : 30th December 2014 7:34 pm
franco1875
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Hi I`m dave , a 48 year old compulsive gambler, been fighting & mainly failing to beat this addiction for 30 plus years. Will bet on anything when I`m in the zone, FOBT, horses,dogs,poker, online roulette,they all come the same when I need my fix. Hoping to find strength in numbers as I can`t beat this on my own. I need to stop!

 
Posted : 30th December 2014 9:51 pm
triangle
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292 days today

great day

anyone been to the online meeting they have daily on gamcare? worth a look if you haven't been

tri

 
Posted : 30th December 2014 10:03 pm
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Hi tri, when is that, sounds interesting?

 
Posted : 30th December 2014 10:17 pm
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Evening everyone!!

So it's T-1 until the days start counting in 2015........but every day counts!! For the 2014 Challengers who haven't checked in then please don't forget to pop onto the thread and make your last check in. Phil has agreed to let me copy the last update of the challenge onto this thread on Thursday so everyone can see the impact the 2014 Challenge has made on people's lives.

As part of the handover between Phil and I I'm updating a few tools I've been using to record progress and will send them to Phil sometime before he delivers the first 2015 update. To do this fully both he and I need the number of gamble free days that everyone has. The vast majority of people have noted as they have been checking in, however, there's a few new soldiers who would be helping massively if they could post their days - before midnight on Saturday night please. These soldiers are as follows:-

blue in the red

qprloc12

barney2909

Markb117

Nick10011

Spud1966

Apologies if I've missed any of your days numbers already, but I have the detail for everyone else that Phil has noted on the front page.

Have a great Hogmanay everyone and all the very best for 2015!

Mr B

 
Posted : 30th December 2014 10:50 pm
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ABSTAIN COMPLETELY, MAINTAIN COMPLETELY (DAY THREE OF GETTING A LIFE BACK)

 
Posted : 31st December 2014 2:06 am
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Hi i would like to join the 2015 challenge. I have just found this site and must say it is great. I have been off gambling for 2 days now but managed over 200 days in 2014 gambling free and think i maybe able to help with some stuff i used which helped me. Stupidly i thought i could stop keeping a diary and control my gambling but have found out to my cost again that i can't and it is time to start again. I have been gambling for over 30 years on sports and the last 7 on FTOB. I have always been bad so would not just blame FTOB but now it is the only gambling that gives me the kick i need. i think with myself it is not the winning or losing but the actual buzz of when that ball is spinning. I am the type of gambler who when they are winning will not take risks but when losing all my rationale goes out the window and i chase losses. Hopefully i can bring something to this forum.

Many Thanks

 
Posted : 31st December 2014 11:18 am
boxingdayfresh
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Day 6 checking in. Here's to 2015 - Happy Gamble Free New Year Everyone.

 
Posted : 31st December 2014 5:14 pm
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I'm in.... Start the New Year on Day 1.. Good luck to all..

 
Posted : 31st December 2014 6:02 pm
pellekanin
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I need to take up this challenge. I am a compulsive gambler and this year has been a total disaster. I am currently 11 days clean and looking forward to next year.

 
Posted : 31st December 2014 9:39 pm
Bornagain
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The challenge is now officially up and running, 2015 is here and we are going to kick its b**t!

This time next year there will be many inspirational tales to be told. Together as a group we can do this, stay strong and see it out and you will reap the rewards!

Happy New Year to you all and may this one be gamble free. Day by day we can all do it!

Phil

 
Posted : 1st January 2015 12:22 am
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1st check in 2015, looking forward to sharing this year with every1..... 507 GF days in the bag. happy new year every1.

Del 🙂

 
Posted : 1st January 2015 1:20 am
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Happy New Year 2015 Challenge Soldiers!

The post below is the final update that I have just made to the 2014 Challenge thread and Phil has kindly allowed me to repost it on the 2015 Challenge page as a taster for what can be achieved by this new group of soldiers. The baton has offically been passed from 2014 to 2015 and you guys, including me, are the carriers of that baton. All the very best troops - 2015 is going to be a great year for every person in this team with the right commitment, determination and barriers.......plus the amazing support you'll get from the rest of the group and the fantastic leadership I know Phil will bring.

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That’s the 2014 journey over and the 2015 one right at the very first step of the road.

A New Year always brings an element of reflection but also resolution for the future and that pretty much will be the form of the final ever update for the 2014 Challenge. It will come as no surprise that I’ll cover off a lot of things statistically and I’m sure Phil will use these to lay down aspirations for the 2015 group. Each one of the measures we’ve used in the last 12 months have been used for a specific purpose – to gauge our individual and collective progress, as well as being able to motivate ourselves to keep on track no matter how bumpy the road has become. There are other numbers I’ll use that will come with an element of warning to all of our new 2015 soldiers – I don’t think any of you underestimate how difficult a recovery this is and it’s good you don’t……...but it is one that can be navigated with hard work, honesty and commitment. The other reflections will come by way of group learnings that could help each of us individually lay solid foundations for a successful and gamble free 2015. Before finishing off the update with some personal thoughts I will look to the future and list the key things that have helped people on the 2014 Challenge turn their lives around.

2014 – The Final Counts

So here come the statistics!!
  • A total of 126 users at some point have been part of the 2014 Challenge.
  • 6 members of the team are “Clean for ‘14”Del79, Duncanmac, Happy Days, Mr Brightside, No Maybe, Hardtimes, Richy244 are all confirmed as having gone through the whole of 2014 without gambling. I’m hoping that a 7th member has too…….Scambling hasn’t checked in for a couple of weeks – hope you’re ok mate. Many many congratulations guys – what a wonderful achievement and great inspiration to everyone!!
  • 95 of the soldiers have been lost in battle and have not communicated as to their progress – it’s fantastic to see some of these individuals checking in to join the 2015 Challenge.
  • 26 members of the team have checked in during the final week and I am aware of 5 further soldiers who have been in touch with me in the last few weeks who are safe, well and gamble free.
  • Of the 31 who we know are safe, well and back at base camp, there have been 6 who have had a lapse at some point on their journey. 25 have not gambled since the day and hour they joined the Challenge.
  • If we are hard on ourselves and say that pure retention i.e. never gambled since joining the Challenge and part of it to the end of the year, then our overall “success” rate is 20%........this means that on average, 1 in 5 people who join the challenge will go on to have a long and sustained gamble free run. It does NOT mean that they have recovered (past tense)……it just means that they are doing very well in recovery. Statistically, only 3% of compulsive gamblers will recover to the point of recovery……..being part of this group will statistically give you more than 6x the chance to achieve something that the vast majority will not.
  • In total, there have been 42 lapses in the group where soldiers have gambled. There is a huge “however” with this statistic though……..the key thing is that they came back. They showed the determination, humility and commitment to the group to start again. When you are not part of a group then the easiest thing to do is revert back to previous behaviours and be accountable only to yourself……..I am going to talk about “commitment” later in the update. There are 2 members of the final checked in group who have had a lapse but are now over 100 days gamble free and have shown to everyone that it can be done!
  • The total count of gamble free days for every member who has come through the 2014 Challenge has totalled a staggering 14714 days which is the equivalent to over 40 years of gamble free living.
  • In 2014, if you had joined the Challenge then the average number of days you would have been stopped for reached 117 days by the time the clock struck 12 midnight on the 31st December.
  • Using an average monetary loss of £50 per person per day then the total number of days stopped during the 2014 Challenge means that we have collectively prevented £735,700 from entering into the profit and loss sheets of the gambling industry. This means that each person on average has either saved £5840, or more likely, prevented getting themselves a further £5840 in debt during the year.
  • There have been 56 soldiers at some point or another have been members of the Century Club – a period where they have gone 100 days or more without gambling.

Now those are some incredible statistics and a clear sign that there is safety in numbers and that collective support can help pull a team through. That’s one of the reasons that the 2015 Challenge is so important. However, what the stats won’t tell us is…………..how much debt has been paid off in 2014 as a result of team members being gamble free? (I alone have managed to free myself of £16k of gamble related debt)………what is the quality of life improvement? How much better do our families feel about the way we are investing in them rather than losing their financial future in a gambling induced coma? How much improvement has there been in our performance at work? How much has our physical and mental wellbeing improved? How well are we sleeping now? Can we now look in the mirror and begin to like what we see? There are countless benefits to stopping gambling…………

2014 Reflections

In this section of the update I’m going to pull on a number of things that have been in previous updates, posts from soldiers and give some key learnings (the big “Tips” from the 2014 Challenge will come later).

The Gambling Triangle

The single most important learning for me and for many others has been around the full adoption of the “Gambling Triangle” principles. The members of the 2014 Challenge who have had the longest sustained recovery are all advocates of it. Time, Location and Money. Remove one of these and it’s impossible to gamble.

Commitment

I’m not going to apologise for labouring on this word. Successful recovery and being part of the 2014 and now the 2015 team needs commitment. Be very clear, it is very evident that the soldiers who have supported their own recovery and the recovery of others in the most effective way are the ones who have taken their commitment to recovery and the group really seriously. Yes, there’s been a couple of lapses on the way, however, the group has been an extra conscience to those who have committed to being part of it. For the 2015 group, be really clear with yourself what the commitment means – think of it like a contract. You are contracting NOT to gamble – if it was a 12 month gym membership and you never went to the gym then you would still have to pay your monthly subscription. You are signing a 12 month contract that you need to be really determined to see through…….that will hopefully see you being able to manage your own fitness come the end of it. Don’t enter into the contract if you have doubts whether you’ll fully utilise your membership – if you have doubts then you aren’t quite ready to stop – something mentally or physically is stopping you!

Lapses

At the start of the 2014 Challenge I would get really downhearted and upset when someone lapsed. I would take it personally and feel as if I had failed the individual in some way. However, as I matured into my own journey and watched the journeys of others I realised that lapses are part and parcel of recovery. Don’t take this as an excuse to lapse because it’s not alright! For every lapse, there has to be a reason – a circumstance, a location, time, money, triggers etc. Each time you have one then you need to understand what the trigger was and do something about it. A great quote on the 2014 Challenge was when one of the members said “the true sign of madness is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting to get a different outcome each time”. Another one which I loved was “nothing changes unless something changes”. See the Top Tips later in the update and make a checklist to try and prevent lapses but, despite a bit of contradiction to the “commitment” paragraph, when they do happen then learn, adjust, act and start again.

The Forum and Challenge

The facility provided by GamCare in the shape of this forum is invaluable and the Challenge is a big part of that for many. A number of people have graduated from posting daily on their own diary to just checking in once a week on the Challenge……but the key thing is that they are still here, regardless of how many days of recovery they have behind them. Sadly it’s a common occurrence for someone to say farewell and “go it alone”…….but more often than not their next post is not to come on and say “hi, I’m doing great”…….it’s typically, “I wish I’d stayed with it”. There are a few who I am aware of who have managed to go it alone and are still gamble free but the advice would be to stick with the forum and at least check in once a week to the 2015 Challenge. One thing we do need to remember though is that every journey is different………

Every Journey is Different………..but the Goal is the Same

Being so process driven and logical it has been a source of endless frustration for me that there is no “formula” to recovery. It took me a long time to appreciate that everyone is different and what works for one may not work for another. There are some general things that I’ll touch on later that can be applied, however, a big reflection for me is that everyone needs to appreciate the recovery journey of one is very different to someone else. There is a common goal though and that is to stop gambling. While you may not agree with the opinion of someone else on methods of stopping, just remember that the goal is the same. Support and encouragement is key to this journey – learn when to put your arm around someone but equally know when to put a toe up their backside! That’s a responsibility for everyone in the Challenge group and has been great to see happening in 2014. The other big reflection in this area is that while the journey may be diff erent to recovery, the feeling of been addicted to gambling is very similar for all of us…..so you are talking to people who know how it feels!

The Addiction Circle – the Principle of Breaking the Addiction

I’m not going to go into this in a huge amount of detail but if anyone wants me to then pop a post on the 2015 Challenge thread and I’ll try to articulate it again. The theory of it is that following a period where you know there’s something wrong (and the same theory applies to alcohol, drugs etc.) you decide that you finally need to do something about it. These are known as the “pre contemplation” and “contemplation” phases. It’s the action phase you move into that was the key learning for me – this is where you need to lay down all the things you need to do to effectively create as many barriers as you can to gambling (like the adoption of the Gambling Triangle). Don’t skimp on the action phase! Everyone who joined the 2014 Challenge and is part of the 2015 one has taken some form of action, but really question whether you’ve done enough to stop. The phase after action is about maintaining…………this is where Duncanmac’s phrase of “abstain and maintain” is so powerful. Maintaining is the most difficult phase and for us, could last a lifetime. Get your actions right and focus on maintaining – this means keeping your guard up at all times!

The Number of Days Clean Doesn’t Matter……..It’s Today that Counts

At the beginning of 2014 I was obsessed with my number of clean days and while I still like to see it grow, the most important thing is today……..and not gambling today. As compulsive gamblers we tend to beat ourselves up badly about the past and regret everything related to gambling – losses, relationships, time with kids etc. However, we can’t influence what happened yesterday or last week or last month……..but we can influence what we do today. If you’re early in your journey then don’t look at the guys who are over a year or 100’s of days clean – celebrate with them yes, but focus on yourself and remember how fragile recovery is. One of my favourite phrases on my journey in relation to the length of recovery was, “the person who has stopped gambling the longest is the person who woke up first this morning”. It truly is a one day at a time journey……..I still look in the mirror every morning and say out loud, “today I will not gamble”.

Apologies if I’ve missed anything in the reflections – there have been so many rich things that have come out in the 2014 Challenge and choosing a few of them has been difficult – I’m sure that some of you could and hopefully will offer your reflections too before the 2014 slips off the Overcoming Problem Gambling page.

The New Year’s Honours List!

Below is the list of everyone who is either active or I know via email, text or phone that are still actively maintaining their recovery from gambling……….and the number of consecutive gamble free days they are at as at midnight on the 31st December. You’ll see some names in there who haven’t been with us for a while……..however, they are still in touch and have had a huge impact on my recovery and that of others on the Challenge. Here is the list:-

Name Clean Days

  • bornagain 31
  • Happy Days 384
  • Mr Brightside 388
  • Del79 506
  • duncanmac 426
  • Rst.Ex-CG 108
  • Baggins 304
  • triangle 293
  • ringerbell 293
  • delboygolf 286
  • Gladsdad 38
  • Mo 104
  • John64 215
  • Wolf57 209
  • Elfie17 191
  • StoneRoses 5
  • SuzyLemon 202
  • mjc1974 218
  • mba 73
  • AndyJ 106
  • mrt1969 90
  • I wished 247
  • egfr 56
  • paulll 45
  • elchipper 36
  • Emily82 28
  • Batman 314
  • Hitthefan 330
  • richy 244 413
  • Hardtimes 385
  • No Maybe 424

The Top Tips for Recovery

So this section isn’t necessarily as part of the 2014 Challenge final update, but is probably of value to the 2015 Challenge and especially its new members. In June 2014 we ran a survey on the Challenge that asked people to list the key things they had done to support recovery. From this we created the Top Tips for Recovery. Below is the extract from the update:

What creates the conditions for us to succeed in our recovery?

The overall feedback may not be ground breaking by way of research findings, however, it really does give tangible things for people to act on and consider to maximise their recovery potential……..most of which will be familiar to us all.

The top 5 for stopping are this……….

1. Telling Someone Close - 2 in every 5 respondents said that the breakthrough for them was the moment they told a partner, a parent, a sibling or a close friend. No secrets is important.

2. Handing Over Financial Control – 31% of answers cited that not having access to cash and financial control were significant. This often comes hand in hand with telling the person close to you why…….but they are surprisingly not intrinsically linked all the time!

3. Install Blocking Software – 20% of everyone answering said that blocking software such as K9 and betfilter had made the biggest difference.

4. The Gamcare Site and the 2014 Challenge – 20% of respondents said that the commitment to a group and being part of the team here has prevented them slipping, as well as regularly visiting and contributing to the site.

5. Downright Determination – the real desire to stop was mentioned by 15% of individuals – various reasons from family to financial.

While these are the Top 5 responses, it’s the combinations of these that are the most significant – the more of the above that someone has done, statistically, the longer they have been in recovery! As far as I am aware, there hasn’t been anyone on this thread who has lapsed from the moment they told their partner about everything (warts and all) and relinquished all responsibility for bank cards and access to cash.

So, if you see anyone joining the site and asking what they should do to support their recovery – we have the answers now!! They need to tell everything to someone close, hand over their finances, join the challenge, install a gambling blocking software and have the real want to stop – 4 practical actions and 1 behavioural……..although I sense the last one may be the biggest challenge. I think it’s worth all of us considering whether we have gaps in our recovery armour when considering the feedback!

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The above was what was written in June this year – I would add two more things to that list – the first being the adoption of the Gambling Triangle and the second is a critical part to that, which is self exclusion. Not just closing accounts etc. but properly self excluding from sites and bookmakers. Please don’t underestimate the importance of entering into that new form of a contract of exclusion – it’s a conscious act of recovery.

The 2014 Challenge Final Words…………

When I fell into owning the 2014 Challenge I had no idea how it would shape, evolve or grow. I didn’t have a clue as to what success looked like. I really didn’t know what to expect. As time went on we set ourselves some aspirational targets of members, clean days, retention, financial savings…….and while not all of those have been hit, I think what has been achieved is that, as a group, we have started something that will hopefully leave a legacy for the forum and its users.

On a personal level I have found new friends…….virtual and physical. I am very hopeful that we will still be able to get together at some point in 2015. On the 24th February 2015 Lady Baggins of Englandshire will celebrate 1 year of being gamble free. The following weekend (Friday 27th, Saturday 28th) I would really hope we can arrange something as a bit of a 2014 Challenge get together somewhere in the Midlands or North West of England for some food, drink and celebration. There are people I want to hug and thank personally for their involvement in my life and their support in getting me to where I am right now – it would be fitting for me that we’d do that at a time relevant to Baggin’s big day. I’ll may be post something in the New Year to gauge interest.

It’s often been said on the 2014 Challenge pages that we could write a book of the journey, the experience, the learnings, the highlights and the disappointments. I guess the way I look at it is that we have simply written the first chapter. The book will never be written for many of us - it will simply continue to be scribed and new wisdom added as the pages turn. It is an honour to hand the book to Phil and the 2015 Challengers to write the next chapter. I look forward to reading the pages, learning from them and growing with you all.

I want to close out by saying a massive thank you to everyone who has participated, committed, contributed and believed in the 2014 Challenge. It is our baby! Without the team and the support we have given each other we wouldn’t have anything to hand over. Thank you for trusting me with the updates, the progress reports and all the other crazy requests I’ve made. It truly has been an honour serving you all as a facilitator, but be as clear as I am, it is you as members of the group who have put in the really hard work and made this the success it has been.

My name is Tony and I am a compulsive gambler. Today I will not gamble. I will take my commitment to being part of the 2015 Challenge as seriously as I have for the 12 months of 2014. I wish every single person on both Challenges the very best – it is in our hands to write the next chapter. I’m officially checking out of 2014 and checking in to 2015!!

I have come out of my cage and I’m doing just fine…………..’cos I’m Mr Brightside xxx

 
Posted : 1st January 2015 1:51 am
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