Digging a hole

Hi if you need help go to GA. Call gamcare get counselling. Stop your access to money.

Hi Onepunchjamoo,

I am curious if you have so far reached out to an Advisor on either the HelpLine or NetLine. I see through a quick review of your posts and the large body of support and advice you have had from forum users that so far you have not been quite ready to act upon that advice, which is often part of the journey leading up to the realisation that you need to want to take action to stop gambling by reducing all access to gambling providers and by accessing the treatment that could be available to you. We understand and realise that it is normal to be ambivalent for quite some time as it can be scary to put the necessary blocks in place and start to take pro-active steps rather than being stuck in the destructive cycle of continuing to gamble, and particularly hard if you are still in the mindset of thinking that gambling is the only way to solve financial difficulty. It is not clear what type of help you will be expecting from your GP but good that you are in contact with them. Once again, please do consider contacting us here at GamCare (if you haven't already) to support you taking some practical steps before the situation continues to worsen.

Kind regards

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And then what? I stop gambling then what? Work 40+ hours a week for what I can earn in one spin? It's deeper than just gambling, what will my options be then? Crime. You're not thinking of the bigger picture. You can't help me.

Uve already said it mate, after you seek help u find work and sort yourself out, enjoy the holiday then put all your effort into that. All the best adam

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See thats the thought you have that is actually going to be a problem. Ypu have to healthe roots first. You need to heal spiritually fist, our spirit, our self respect our care for others has been crushed. Our essence as human beings. We are so broken. Its a bout finding the true values in life. Life is not always about money. very rich people have commited suicide, why? they have money they can buy anything... but in life you cant buy everything, you cant buy the feeling of warmth and love in your stomach, you cant buy the trust of close ones, you cant buy your family happiness.

Enjoy every meal that you have, try to cook something nice.. Spend more time with loved ones - maybe share your gambling problem.. although I havent shared mine.. Anyway we should try to see the light and the beauty. It takes time to heal and process everything that happened to you, and me and everyone here. It will be hard, but people have made it! and one day when you get old you will have stories to tell. I dont know your age but consider this as an expensive lesson. Money is just paper to buy what you need. You can have a lot of money, but then if you are not able to enjoy your meal, your sleep... THEN what is the point of all that? money will come and go. we need to try and build something from what we got..

kind regards

the dude

My holiday was in September and I've been working and I'm in worse debt because I'm worse when I work due to having so much money..
That was a beautiful speech but if I won the lotto I'd be very happy, I'd isolate myself in a nice big secure mansion and chill and Watch films and YouTube and get fat. If it's 'just paper' give me all your paper?

I posted this on one of your other posts but i think youve overlooked...

' I'm sorry Jamoo but i'm going to be straight up in this post, you need it.

You think your opinion is the correct one in every circumstance and that others are just being silly and overreacting with their kind and caring comments.

You've proven it oh so many times with your positivity you have control just to come back to us to report your losses.В 

I havn't read a single post from yourself where i'm convinced you want to change in the slightest. You basically come here to put your gambling updates on....and they're always negative results but you still dont see the how it's affecting you.

You have received nothing but quality information from so many caring people on this site for months now but you don't listen.

Yes gambling is entertainment and it is made fun, glamorous and glitzy, that's what got us all into this situation, because these casinos are purposely built to take our money by being a fun and enjoyable experience, but you still can't see past this. Your always making excuses saying 'I'l wait until after my holiday' and whatever other excuse you can use.В 

You encourage you Girlfriend to gamble along side you saying it won't do her any damage..she isnt like you and has control...for how long? You have given advice to GamCare members desperate to recover to do the National Lottery on here twice? Saying its a bigger jackpot so it's worth going for.....roulette is 1 in 36 chance and that's the game which got so many people on here into a shed load of debt, the National Lottery is 1 in 45 MILLION chance....stop dishing out destructive information. If you can't take quality advice from this site yourself, dont give out your own words of wisdom.

I suggest you think about what you have become, and could still be........and your responsibilities to your girlfriend, your family. Don't wait to start looking for a job, get on it NOW! Stop gambling NOW! Find a purpose and an objective for your life NOW! Otherwise my friend your just going to continue making excuses, saying 'I'm going to wait until after......' for everything positive you could ever do..... you say you want nice things and to do greater things in life, the gambling will always hold you back, you know it deep down....you need to take the steps you need to to have the life you are clearly striving for.

Take these steps:

*Sign up to GamStop (Essentail!!!!!)
*Self exclude from all local Casino's and bookies and hand over a mugshot aswell to ensure your success
*Hand over your finances to someone trustworthy

Put these stops in place and I guarentee you within 4 months you wont look back.

Time for change?...I had too, every other member of this site has or will do....now it's your turn.

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Good luck.'

its about choice. You choose to gamble.

The thing is we are not made to live alone.. there are some creatures like chipmunks and other animals that live the life alone. but we as humans we cannot exist happily, we cannot prospere.. That big mansion you are talking about, someone has to build it and work for it... there will be engineers , workers and what not.. those people will be paid by someone.... lets go back in history where there was no money.. People had to help each other. You cant build a house on your own. We got on the top of the world because we worked together. Now you gonna buy a big house, isolate yourself and eat junk food and get fat? What kind of happiness is that? It just doesnt correspond with our existance. Its not logical. Its delusion.. So it wont last very long before you get all depressed and fat old man. Let me be honest , I also struggle to come back to what I once was. Well I will never be same probably, but I hope I will be better person than I ever was. Things I have done like stealing, lies and what not.. they have made my stomach sick. Not the money but what I have become is harder to heal than the money. I have become a careless junky. If that life was good, then why it made me sick, why is making you sick? Look at the families that live happily.. they have normal jobs and they love what they do. So when you go to work you shouldnt consider it as punishment, but as a place you wanna try and give the best you can. Be an example of a proper human being. We as modern generations , we are loosing the true values in life. I would say maybe try to make something that makes you happy.. First find whatever job, then do some training. Me, I am a butcher now.. But I got professional license C+E and I love driving.. so very soon I will be looking for driving job. Best of luck, hope my words will give you an insight

Promixo, sound advice but it is wasted on Jamoo. Many of us have already offered him advice but its always pathetic excuses. Jamoo, not long ago you wanted a job, now you have one its pointless as you gamble more. You scrounge off your girlfriend to gamble and your in debt. You even posted 'Work 40+ hours per week for what I can earn in 1 spin'. I'm sure you are a troll.

You are broke and going nowhere in life and still you think gambling will pay off. Gambling has put you in the mess you are in. No point giving you advice, as I and many others have already done so but you continue to ignore it. Hopefully you will wise up before it is too late.

I don't like your attitude promixo, you don't even know what my name means.. it's because I like an anime called one punch man and jamoo is a nickname.. if I was tryna be hard maybe I'd go for icouldkopormixoinonepunchjamoo15.
Plus I have a job so I'm not making up excuses, I work but what you don't understand is that working doesn't help.
You all moan about me not listening to you but you don't even listen to me..
If I took your advice, I'd be banned from gambling right? So then when I wanted to gamble what would I do? Either spend ages going out my way to gamble at a casino or bookies in another town or city or find some site I haven't been blocked on yet and then after going through all that I'd be more annoyed than ever and God knows what I'd do. You don't see the biggest picture.. at least I know the outcome my way. At least if I don't work I can't lose so much, I can be helpful in other ways.
I don't know how I'm considered a troll, you can make hundreds of pounds in one spin.. I make ВЈ400 a week doing 6 days/48 hours, that's just a fact.. on my lunch break last week I won £1100..
I don't think telling people to turn to the lotto is a bad idea, the lotto isn't as flashy and is a lot more casual and is something you but then just forget about.
Fair enough I come on here every now and again when I lose and feel bad, sorry I'm not on here every day quitting for a few months then relapsing like everyone else or thinking I'm amazing because I haven't gambled for a bit.
If you have such a problem with me just ignore me ?

+ I'd definitely be happy alone in my big mansion being fat, people bore me I'm more than ok with being alone.

Just open your minds guys, you're getting angry because I'm not doing exactly what you say, I have a gambling addiction.. would you be like this if a drug addict didn't take your advice and stop taking drugs?

If you don't want to block gambling from your life then I suppose your not ready to give up, do what makes you happy mate but personally since I stopped in May (I reset my counter on here about a month ago as I bought a lottery ticket and thought it was cheating to not admit it lol) I have been a whole heap happier, I still have some debt to pay off but there's no stress and anxiety any more, everything's a lot clearer and much brighter now :-).

Do what you feel is right mate, sorry for being so forward with you, i just thought a bit of a push might help and be what you need.
When You are ready to quit for real (and i mean for real!) and don't want to play ever ever again, we'll be here to support you once again.

All the best in the mean time.

Be as forward as you want, I'm not a sensitive person when it comes to people's opinions but you're assumption about my name and the fact you and that other guy are so angry when everyone here has the same problem is just like.. what ? Really? If I believe I can coexist with it I don't see the problem, I paid everything I needed to this week before I lost everything, my only fault was getting a loan. People that try to stop completely seem to mess up more than I do and they don't pay their bills and stuff. Just saying.

Jamo, having read this thread a few times, I’m struggling to see what you’re trying to achieve.

Am I right in thinking that you want to continue to gamble but in a controlled manner? That’s how I’m reading it. I apologise if that’s not the case.

You say you made £1100 in your lunch break but mate, you said you lost £28,000 in a single day once. That’s 2 years wages for some people. So I would say it swings in roundabouts but it doesn’t. It hurts us far more than the wins we get.

I get your point about people on here who try to give up completely and relapse from time to time. I myself have been one of those in the past. But it’s about the whole journey to giving up. Some people achieve their desired result in less attempts than others.

I think if you do want to continue to gamble in some format, then that’s fair enough and it’s your decision, but I don’t think this is the place to encourage that sort of behaviour as it could give some people the wrong impression.

If you were 100% guaranteed to make yourself £1100 in every lunch break at work then we’d all be at it. But you talk about that scenario as though it’s a flawless plan rather than the massive risk that it actually is.

Have a think about what you’re saying and how it looks to others on the forum.