Starting to feel pathetic

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I've been gambling for years lost a lot (tens of thousands in a single day once) Ive been with my girlfriend for 4 months and I was in debt and taking out loans and she took out a loan to help me out and I gambled most of what she gave me. I owe her about ВЈ1000 and she's very cool about it but we just had a mini argument because my mum gave me £20 today to pay my cineworld card and I lost it and she's saying I should of given it to her because she's looking after me which is completely true and I just feel pathetic, I'm not working really struggling to find a job because no one will hire me as I've worked most places in the town where I live and quit due to me losing my wages week after week. I have things I need to pay and no regular income so when I get money I feel gambling is my only option.. just feeling really down and there's nothing I can do to change it right now..

 
Posted : 18th April 2018 6:45 pm
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My advice would be to get the blocks in place so when you do get a job u cant gamble ur paycheques.

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Posted : 18th April 2018 7:13 pm
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Try to block internet gambling on your phone and pc, ring to self exclude from local bookies, join sense scheme so u cant go in a casino. Then give your pay to a loved one once uve paid bills to look after. Ive done all this and it is finally working, good luck

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Posted : 18th April 2018 7:16 pm
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Thanks for the advice guys.
Deep down I know gambling isn't the answer, it just feels that ways with my current situation. I am so lucky to have the girlfriend I have, j just want to help out more and spoil her because she's been really amazing about my gambling even when I let her down time and time again.
I think the blocks would just slow me down and make me more desperate, there's SO many bookies around and so many sites, I've blocked myself from a few of the biggest sites and regret it Tobe honest because I enjoyed some of the games and ease of used, I just need to work on my self control I think. I've calmed down a lot from earlier but I know I need to seriously cut down and gain self control at the least.

Thanks for the advice caught up and Adam

 
Posted : 19th April 2018 12:41 am
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Posted : 19th April 2018 7:53 am
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I've just woke up and it's a sunny day so I'll reply to this later but thanks, you're right, I don't mind people being blunt, I prefer it to P***y footing around what you're trying to say. I appreciate the time you've taken to try help so I'll respond in kind. Have a good day.

 
Posted : 19th April 2018 9:03 am
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Posted : 19th April 2018 10:46 am
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I do need to stop gambling and hangs my perception of money, I almost didn't even do free gambling yesterday because I was busy in the sun all day.

The thing with me is I pretty much always win, I just get greedy so it's not like I just lose and I don't achieve what I set out to, that's what annoys me.

I agree my addiction is intense but I think I'm past the worst of it to be honest, years ago I was in thousands of pounds of debt and asking people for £1 in town to gamble and going prison over minor things trying to gamble more and I'm nowhere near that now.

Gambling definitely messes with people's self esteem but it's just one of them I guess

I don't have the means to just move, I'm broke and my credit report is terrible, I'm happy with where I live anyway. In February I won a lot, paid off a ВЈ420 bill my mum was behind on, gave my girlfriend a few hundred, paid like ВЈ400 of my own debt, spent couple hundred on clothes and trainers, had a few takeaways, did some foods shops for my mum and girlfriend, but I got too greedy and blew £800 2 days in a row, that's the thing I love when I have money and can help people I care about and then I just do insane bets, if I could keep my cool I legit believe I'd be able to have a steady income until they probably band me because bookies hate winners. But yeah I'm not that person so I guess I need to see that.

The hard facts seem good but when I spend time planning to become better and I fail.. I just feel so much worse and so stupid.

Don't worry you're not coming across a preachy tool, just like you genuinely care and you legit hate what gambling has done to us all.

I know I come across delusional still lol it's just if you saw how lucky I was you might get it aha.

Yeah a lot of the time I need to just be left alone after a big loss, rather isolate than spread the negative vibes.

Thanks though mate you speak sense and you've all helped me on this bump in the road

 
Posted : 20th April 2018 9:50 am
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Onepuchjamoo....I dont think you really understand the gambling addiction process. Yes you win...you win alot...but you cant walk away. That is the full gambling cycle....the last part of the process is that you cant walk away when you win.You will ALWAYS go back to win more or chase the losses. That does not make you silly or stupid or greedy...these are not the reasons that you cannot walk away when you win. The real reason is that you are a gambling ADDICT and this is how the gambling addiction roles....you cant walk away. So yes...I do think you are still in the denial stage and delusional. You think you are not...you think you can win and walk away. You cant my friend...and you WONT...no matter how much you think you will the next time.This is the thought process when you are in full blown addiction stage...and that is why you think this way.We all win sometimes...I have won many many many times...and big amounts too. Many times I have blown a grand...been so sick about it...then put in another grand to win it back. And yes...many many many times I have managed to come back from losing a grand by chasing it with another...some times down to my last spin of the wheel...and wooohooo yeesss I am back in the game...jeez I am over the moon, I am soooo happy with myself for spending the extra grand to get my original one back. Im great...im buzzing...Im soooo relieved...Ive done it...pheeeew I could have been 2 grand down...but Im good...Im so good that I risked it..it paid off and now Im up...Finally Im up. Thank god. I couldnt have afforded to lose that money so thank god I was 'sensible' enough to go back and win my money back. And then what....I think its ok now...Im on a lucky streak...I will just bet 100 of it now and I will walk.If I have only lost 100 and not 2k...then that cool. But guess what...I just lost 100...surely another 100 will get that back. Hey...I managed to come back from losing almost 2k...getting a 100 back will be easy. And off we go...on a downward sprial. The 2k is now gone...o*g I cant beleive it...I was up...how the heck did I let that happen. I was UP...I was winning...I DID win. And now...o*g how stupid am I...I cant believe I did this...why didnt I just walk away. Why did I have to be so greedy.I won! I was Up! Next time I gamble...I WILL walk away...I WILL. I have absouely no doubt this is your thought process. I know it is how you think...because you are a gambling addict just like myself...and this is how WE ALL think. Our minds are taken over by this addiction...we are no longer in control. You are delusional to think you are in control and it will be differnet next time...if only you can control yourself and walk away. You cannot walk away...becaue your mind is out of control at that time with this addiction. You need to try somehow to really understand the addiction process. It is a process...it is a progressive disease/illness...the starting point may be different for everyone...but the end result is ALWAYS the same...for EVERYONE who is a compulsive gambler. Please try and read more on here...listen to other people stories...you are not special...their gambling addiction is not different from yours. You may think that you are somehow different...you are the same...we are all the same.

 
Posted : 20th April 2018 12:16 pm
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Sorry - have to pick out a few statements from your post.....

> The thing with me is I pretty much always win

> I know I come across delusional still lol it's just if you saw how lucky I was you might get it aha.

The two above statements don't seem to agree with other aspects of your post like the below.....
> I'm broke and my credit report is terrible,

I'm broke and my credit report is terrible doesn't sound like you're lucky......As valdab says, it's important to realise what's happening otherwise you'll keep going back. We're all in the same boat. Hope you can find support and good advice here.

Andy.

 
Posted : 20th April 2018 1:24 pm
Joydivider
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I know its hard onepunchjamoo but gambling is not an income scheme and its not the answer to what you seek.

You pretty much always win do you? Pray tell us on what odds and doing what? Its a deadly addiction and you need to understand it more. as valdab says its a crazy deluded thought process as the addiction takes control and we cant walk away.

You need a born again moment where you realise whats important and your girlfriend and family may be the only good thing you have out of all of this.

We have all been at this early stage of confusion. You talk about the upsides when you have money but we can see that you are in debt and on this forum.

Its a deadly form of mind control and dopamine addiction. It will ruin you if you continue. The gambling dens have not got an income scheme worked out for you. I dont agree with gambling but at very best it should only be a form of light entertainment.... one bet then walk away. However problem gamblers have to enter a full recovery and reach out for all the help on offer

As A compulsive gambler I couldnt walk away and I ignored the odds. Anything that did come out was never regular or enough. I was actually playing for escape and the feeling of playing. That feeling was not much more than a numb trance in the later stages of my addiction

I mean it that you need to stop gambling....are you ready to do that?

You need to sit down and write down what income you have and what you have been gambling away. There is no point playing the big man and there is no shame in admitting that it got to you. I think you know the wins are much rarer than the losing streaks.

The truth is we cant trust ourselves when addicted. Your girlfriend sounds right and I am just giving you food for thought which you may thank me for one day.

Being gamble free is a wonderful feeling of control.

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

 
Posted : 20th April 2018 3:49 pm
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I see what you're saying, the thought process is very much like that and I get that we are all the same and I'm not special and everyone has big wins and that, it's definitely a greed thing with me though, I won ВЈ2000 off two footy bets and then on my first spin on roulette won another grand, then because of greed I lost it, I don't see the amount I win I see what I star with and I didn't start playing for a 50% profit. Unless I do something like I did recently and win ВЈ180 off £2 then I see the money even though I've made a 9000% profit which was from a free game. But there's times where I can just walk, small periods where I'll play and I'll be ok with a couple of hundred every day and I'll spend a bit and keep a bit to play on. I'm not in debt with any companies, just with my girlfriend and my credit score isn't something I'm bothered about right now as is stops me even trying to get loans and I'm not in a position to get s mortgage so it's whatever.
When I say I'm lucky I mean I literally always am up, like if I walked when normal people would, I wouldn't have to work, if I just lost and lost and was never up I'd probably be more inclined to stop gambling. I mostly play roulette, it's the quickest and I just get a feeling a number will come, put more on it and it usually comes.

Again I know I sound delusional but I'm just saying facts, almost every time I gamble I get up relatively quickly, I am a greedy person, if I walked when I was up I'd be fine...

But it's also a fact I'm a gambling addict which makes it extremely difficult I know.

I have a very open mind so I believe it's possible to get to the stage I could walk but I'm aware it's not easy as I have a problem.

I don't even have a income to sit down and write about..

I appreciate all this advice and your insights but with my current situation with no income and my difficulty finding work gambling is just what I need to be honest for the short term anyway.

I enjoy gambling, I think we all do we just don't like the result sometimes, it's like if you go on reviews for a gambling site people that loss review it negatively but everyone can't win it makes no sense and it's not about playing he longest or making the most bets or buying the most tickets or whatever, people have to lose for people to win, I understand it all I just want to be able to control myself and withdraw when I'm up and then walk, maybe have a little part time job for regular income.

I know I probably come across as delusional,stupid and annoying but for now it's just how I feel.

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 9:59 am
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You have received a lot of sound advice here and you should re-read some of it and try and take it on board. I’m not trying to be harsh but you talk a lot of nonsense in the post above. We have all turned small sums into large figures on occasions but we always put it back in and more ontop. When I was frustrated after a big loss I’d search for anything to blame but myself, I was unwilling to take responsibility. I’m sure me and you are multiple thousands down lifetime so you really do need to let go of this belief that you are good at gambling. I used to think that too, I believed I was able to consistently predict somewhat random results. Gambling doesn’t take skill, we are mugs and it’s your choice if you continue to play on.

You seem thoroughly attached to gambling, I understand as I’ve been struggling to diminish my relationship with this nasty pastime for a large chunk of my early adulthood, I can’t allow this P**P to define my entire life.

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 3:19 pm
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Exactly, we're all capable of winning loads we just need to not be greedy and learn to walk away. I'm not claiming to be the only one who wins, I know that most problem gamblers win we just don't walk but if we did... We could turn gambling into a useful tool. Gambling isn't bad, it's a business, people are bad. It's entertainment like any other but you have the potential to get money back.. I believe gambling takes a small but of skill and guts along with persistence.

I agree though I'm happy with the advice given, I think you've all been helpful and don't worry about sounding harsh, I'm not a sensitive person. I just think I'm a bit more open minded about being able to gamble in moderation and it not being inherently bad. if everyone gambled moderately and what they could afford to then the bookies can still take their percentage and a few people could win some money, us addicts just need to learn self control or like most people will suggest on here, cut it out all together, me personally I'd like tobe able to do the lotto every week, maybe ВЈ5 on footy and £20 on roulette and be able to just live my life if I lose on them all.

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 4:53 pm
Joydivider
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We will talk frankly onepunchjamoo because we actually care about you unlike the gambling industry. You seem highly addicted and not ready to stop.

Nobody here can force you to stop and you are making the decisions. Einstein said there is no system on roulette and nobody is offering you daily lifechanging odds on Manchester United vs the grannies 11.

That may sound silly or flippant but Im just trying to drum home what the odds are and what gambling is really all about. Nobody here is saying that money doesnt come this way. What we are saying is that once we have crossed the line into uncontrolled gambling its extremely difficult to recover with willpower alone.

Sure people win but dont let that reinforce the idea its a nice little earner. Enough people lose and that ratio is needed to maintain the lifestyle of the gambling barons.

You might think you are in control and then you have a blow out when your mind takes over based on adrenaline, dopamine, shame, fear greed or whatever in the soup of emotions.

You do read as quite casual about it. If gambling could be turned into a useful tool who would go to work? You talk about gambling not being bad. Im not having a dig but I sense your girlfriend may know more about the whole story then we do. Am I wrong?

Yes greed plays a part but its not the only reason. We can all think there is a bit more where this came from and before we know it the bank account is empty and the credit card maxed out.

When I came to this forum I was at my wits end having gambled everything away and an addiction that I have had over forty years. I felt I was ready to stop but it took me another 10 months to take the right blocking steps.

Its up to you..we can only hope to change your mind. We are not being a**l or square about it..we know that gambling destroys people in the grip of an addiction

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 5:50 pm
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