Starting to feel pathetic

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I'm not saying I have a system but in my personal experience it doesn't take long to win hundreds on roulette, it's just a spin away.. Einstein didn't know everything but I know that roulette is made in a way there's no bet that you can keep spinning that will have you win every time. Just takes a lucky accumulator to win you a couple thousand as well.

I agree it's difficult which is why I struggle to control myself and walk away. Just because people don't do something, doesn't mean it can't be done.

Gambling is a form of entertainment, as people we allow ourselves to get addicted which is our fault but the act of gambling is innocent.

I get what you're all trying to say but open your minds, are you telling me it's impossible for me to start walking away and settling with like £500 a week? I'm not asking if it's likely or easy, but just tell me if you think it's possible..
Anyone who says no needs to open their minds in my opinion but we all have our own opinions and if you don't agree that fine but I'm not saying anything that's not possible.

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 6:11 pm
(@bryan)
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I’m going to be frank too. This is a forum for people who want to stop gambling . Not for people who are just temporarily stopping because they are not winning at the moment . If you want to stop we will do our best to help you . If you want to carry on and don’t think you want to stop or are not contemplating stopping then this isn’t the forum for you . Glorifying it isn’t helpful to other members you have to respect that

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 6:37 pm
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I want to learn to live with it, at times I'd like to stop then I think 'well I enjoy it.. I should be able to do this without it having a negative effect'? Why does there have to only be one option? If you want to lose weight, do you stop your intake of calories or do you cut down and eat in moderation? I don't believe completely cutting out something you enjoy is good for your health. I'm not glorifying gambling, just saying it can be played in moderation and be enjoyable if you're able to manage your greed/urge to keep playing.
I respect other people on here that's why I've only said this is my thread.

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 7:08 pm
(@bryan)
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Thanks for the reply . You need to do what’s right for you . You know your gambling has caused you problems and something has led you to this site . If it was as easy as everyone being able to gamble a little and what they can afford there wouldn’t be a need for this site . The facts are we can’t . We all have an illness that has cost us a lot more than just money in our lives . You do what works for you , but if you are still intent on gambling , it kind of contradicts what this site is about . If you are not ready now at least you know where this site is and how to engage . I will put my neck on the line here and say if you don’t stop now , the Jamoo that will return here will be in a much darker place than he is now . Gambling doesn’t solve anything for the compulsive gambler , just creates more problems . Good luck whatever you decide to do

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 7:15 pm
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I'm not even sure myself what's best for me, I like to use this to vent and read other people's stories, like just getting it off my chest helps seeing I'm not the only one but ultimately I'd like to be at one with it and live my life and gamble like everyone else does. Everyone has bought a lotto ticket or a scratch card or gone casino.. most people at least, I'd like to be like that. You might be right, my mind is open to knowing that's a possibility but hope you're wrong
Thanks for having a conversation and not getting emotional because I know I can come across as annoying.

Wish you the best too

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 7:40 pm
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You are not annoying you just come across as contradictory perhaps confused about your relationship with gambling . If you could make a living from gambling and walk away when you are up, surely you would have already done it by now . It’s not for me to tell you what you should or shouldn’t be doing , all I can try and do is call it from how I see it . I’m sure things will turn out good for you if you want them to.

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 7:46 pm
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Just because something can be done, doesn't mean people will do it otherwise a lot of people would do a lot of things, I believe it's possible, it's just not easy, like we all agree, the greed and temptation is just SO strong but I hope to improve my will power and self control and to be less greedy and more patient.
I definitely want them too so hopefully you're right aha

 
Posted : 21st April 2018 8:49 pm
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You are clearly super attached to gambling and unwilling to stop, I haven’t had a bet in 3 days loool but if I was forced to it’d be on you to be back here in the foreseeable future wishing you’d listened sooner, it’s a mugs game.

 
Posted : 22nd April 2018 4:24 pm
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You have to decide if you have a problem jamoo or if you just want to stop losing.

What you are saying does not tie in with your earlier comments in which you mention loads lost in a day loans and debts. Unfortunately you cant have it both ways and either gambling is harming you or it is not.

Its like when I see someone with a drinking problem. I can mention it once or twice but I cant make them stop. They need to be ready and Im not banging my head against a brick wall and taking all the worry. I couldnt live with a problem drinker or gambler so one of us would be gone

There is no system on roulette. To win enough even at 2.1 you have to risk enough and watch random chance in action. Spread betting is not a system. Roulette is causing misery for a great many people in the bookies and casinos. I would like to calculate the odds on a football accumulator because plenty of people lose time and time gain. Obviously they are not offering an easy build up or they would be out of business very quickly.

You make it sound easy which is the confusion talking. Its just a spin away...well it could be just a spin away until you have lost everything. You talk as if you are a professional gambler making 200 a day. Theres quite a few teachers and nurses who would like to know your secret.

There is a known stage of confusion where you are asking why me. What you are asking is why cant it all go right for me. You seem to dismiss the fact that the gambling dens want your money and they get it. Compulsive gamblers naturally dont like losing and they get carried away in the gambling trance

What brought you to the forum is the reality about gambling. Its very easy to become addicted and out of control. If you think it can be done with willpower alone I can only say that the advice here is tried and tested.

You need to keep learning how serious this form of mind control is. If you carry on the odds are that your debt will increase and your relationships strained to breaking point

Your decision your life and your future

Best wishes

 
Posted : 22nd April 2018 8:06 pm
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Great post JD, enjoyed reading that.

You say gambling makes you feel pathetic yet you seem to love it so dearly, you seem very conflicted and perhaps in denial to the true nature of your problem.

 
Posted : 22nd April 2018 9:57 pm
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What odds and I'll take your bet aha?
I won Ā£30 from nothing today so it's been a good day šŸ™‚

Yeah I've lost loads and had debts but I don't currently owe any companies any more which is nice. I've already said I don't have a system I'm just very lucky and persistent.
It is easy, I've made Š’Šˆ200 a days over numerous days easily, I've won over Š’Šˆ1000 on my first spin multiple times.. open your mind guys just because the odds of something are high doesn't make them impossible, do you all really find it hard to believe a person can make a hundred or so daily in like 5 minutes ? If so then you're proving my luck or you gamble really slowly or in a scared manor where you put Ā£1 max on a number.

I feel like you're you two are bringing negative energy and believe gambling can only lead to loss but that's not true. Plenty of people gamble and win and then walk away and spend it consistently.

Just think about the things I've said with OPEN minds please.

Gambling can be very serious yes, when a human that is mentally unable to gamble safely or a human who is greedy gambles but it can also be entertaining and rewarding if someone does it with a calm mind and is able to control themselves.

Thanks for the concern though and sharing your thoughts, I appreciate it šŸ™‚

 
Posted : 22nd April 2018 10:15 pm
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Onepunchjamoo...I don't think anything anyone says to you on here is going to make a difference to you because you clearly do not think you are an addict. You believe you have a problem only with gambling because you are greedy and cannot walk away. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. You have proven time and time again that you are unable to control yourself. You are too greedy and cannot walk away. How do you think you can learn to control yourself and your greed? What tactics do you think that you should use to stop being so greedy and be able to walk away with your winnings? How do you see yourself managing that control? Whats your plan to stop you being so greedy in the future?. The things that work for me is to stop gambling altogether because I wasnt able to find a way to stop myself and walk away. The thing that helps me is to block access to online gambling and to come on here and learn from others stories. Whats your plan?

 
Posted : 22nd April 2018 11:19 pm
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I agree that's the problem that's what I want to learn to control. They're valid questions, my plan is practice, I have to put myself in the position and give myself the chance to walk. To paraphrase God in Evan almighty, 'if we ask God for patience, does he give us patience? Or does he give us a chance to be patient?'

I have to put myself in the position to walk but I currently only play free games I don't deposit.

I understand why blocking works for most people on here but it would just slow me down and force me to find other ways of involve other people, it wouldn't work for me.

 
Posted : 22nd April 2018 11:55 pm
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You have been 'practicing' for years already and you havent managed to crack it. You have said you always win so it looks like you have been put in that position of 'patience' that you speak of many times.Einstein says the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.Clearly you have no intention of giving up gambling. You dont want the blocks as they would slow you down. You are certainly correct...they do slow us down....they slow us down enough to so that our foggy gambling heads can have enough time to clear and re think whether we want to lose more money and continue ruining our lives. I chose to respond to people on here in the hope that I can help them somehow, whilst helping myself by reinforcing the truths about gambling addiction. I feel I am unable to help you. I think you may be best to see a professional, a councellor, who can work with you on some cognetive behavioural therapy. Changing the way we think about things and view things can be very helpful. Its not always possible alone, sometimes professional guidance is needed. Is there anyone in your locality that you would consider going to see?

 
Posted : 23rd April 2018 12:47 am
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True, but only now am I making a serious concious effort.
If Einstein is to be believed then that makes most of us crazy and with that kind of negative feeling no one would have ever completed through the fire and flames on guitar hero 3 100%.

Like I said for a lot of people being slowed down probably helps but it would stress me out and make me do something stupid, I've tried that before and I'll always find another way like using someone else's details, I have access to 2 other people's gambling accounts.

You might be right, I'm in here because I went to my doctor in hopes of getting therapy and he sent me here. The closest face to face from gamcare is like 30 miles away as well and I'm poor and don't drive. But I'd love to try it because the way I think and the way I see money really doesn't help to be honest.

I'm quite stubborn as well which you can probably see.

 
Posted : 23rd April 2018 6:45 am
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