Self Exclusion doesn't work.

Hello, 

I feel your pain….been there done it and got the 250k badge for good measure.

Sadly in all circumstances we can’t blame anyone but ourselves in these types of circumstances. Yes they have a duty of course, but so do we otherwise why do we sign up? 

Got to take it on the chin I am afraid, another bump in the road to navigate and learn from. 

@c17ort Is it really that harsh? I honestly thought that something could be done?

The Point is you knew you was self excluded you can't expect them to babysit you. I used to be like you and blame everyone else after i lost. The fact is you Lost your money take the resonsibility for this, and try change by being commited to recovery.would you be here if you won i guess you wouldn't be complain if you won.

@ypqtfao731 You are totally missing the point and this is the real reason I am here! 

I lost, nobody cares I get it...

But the facts still remain that there is a Handful of people, or more, that struggle with day to day functioning and go so far as to seek help by way of Self Exclusion and therapy to just be overlooked by the Laws and the Operator's and the irony is fellow recovering addicts like myself are quick to say its youe own fault. Nah, sorry but this needa looking at closer. 

It isnt my fault, I am only half of the Story, the other half is Rich and a giant that probably squeezes me down to much less than half of the story.

Instead of the Its yoyr osn fault and Im in the same Boat how abouy coming together and standing up against these regulators to ensure that the protection is properly implemented into law so that the people who seek help get it and thsn these operatora will disappear overnight....Um just like when the bookies reduced the stake to £2.

You are angry mate, everyone here understands it thats why we are here for support.

The previous comments were not telling you that the system isnt flawed. You are absolutely right, something needs to be done about it.

The main takeaway though mate is if we really wanted to gamble we would find a way. You knew that the other two wouldnt let you in.

Nobody is having a go at you, I have mental health problems from my gambling addiction. The truth hurts but you need to see this as an opportunity to learn from. 

If you feel like you aren't in control at the moment, let someone you trust manage your money till you are back on track. 

Do what works for you mate, but please dont beat yourself up. 

Dom

Jack jones i am sorry to hear this tbh bookmaker Arcades etc are all useless in terms of self exclusion only land based casino take self exclusion seriously so i totally understand your point and it never going to change wether they are going to implement it is another matter i personally believe the self exclusion isnt worth anything unlike unlike with stuff like Gamban you simply cant log into legal sites so it does what it suppose to do i have come to a conclusion since it never going to change u have to get the support not to go step foot in those places

@g0r7tnm625 I am angry at myself because they dont want to share the blame. When you google what happened to me you will find information saying when this happens you dont automatically receive a refund but most of the it says you can get a refund. It shouldnt say that if it is a no! That is a red flag and seems like a cover up? I really dont get why they would say that it is a serious breach etc etc... But when you go through the channels they drag an already emotionally challenged person through the dirt. I mean gambling disorders are detrimental to society and people become seriously ill and all sorts. Thats the reason why we self exclude really, isn't it? I lose money- I self exclude and it works, until I lose money again.... Then its all my fault, seems like a waste of resources and time to me.... Yh, I am angry it doesnt work.

@tazman Its a good job I do not enter land based Casinos so I wouldnt know. Also, I stay out of the Bookies and never ever place a Bet online. I am really happy with that and I manage to take care of myself because Health is the real Currency. The lure of wellbeing is deeply rooted into the fact that the money we have the better our quality of life and the thing I didnt mention because it is off topic is that Gambling advertisment is out of Control and I believe there actually is an epidemic of Gambling and its a major Public Health Issue. So, yeah Id love to never ever step foot in those places ever again, in fact I wish for there to be no place in our Towns for them and online.

Hi Jack

Can I ask if you have a block on gambling transactions with your bank ? On my Monzo app I just click a button and it takes 24 hours to take off. 

If you have then you do have a case with the bank

I would strongly suggest going on trustpilot and put up a shocking review. They will contact you no doubt and try and get you to take it down. Threaten to write to your local paper with the story. Don't give up complaining direct and threatening to cause them a loss of revenue. 

Unfortunately I never at the time but the next day I did it was a very difficult feature to add on my online banking but now its turned on for good. I will look into your advice still, I actually have been writing to every single campaign out there since this I have definitely annoyed the operator already but they thought I was bluffing. I will ensure it goes to parliment because the Laws are already changing the Gambling Commision has been taken over and all sorts. There was a guy on here years ago that lost millions and he was in the news and everything. He led a very successful campaign and thats inspiring for a Gambler who can relate with the struggles of gambling harm. Despite going to prison for fraud He fought for others in a similar situation. I dont know why these guys on our High st dont pay cooperation Tax but remain free? 

We are slowly winning the tax has literally doubled recently to keep those online casinos running and I hope it happens in the high streets too...Soon!  It definitely points to the fact that compulsive gamblers fund them and the people that do a quid here and ther cannot possibly pay the rent.

The mechanics they are using to lure people in is unbelievable such as Dark Spots, dark patterns and Dark nudges... But thats another side to it...

Hi Jack

One bit of advice I have been given time and time again. It's pointless trying to change laws. It took 7 years to reduce the FOBTs down to £2. It will end up like gambling and take you to insanity. I would honestly let that side go and let someone else fight the battle

You can however have a go for yourself. I'm not saying you will win but they won't like trustpilot and they won't like the threat of gambling commission or your local paper

Glad you got that block in so you can't do that anymore. Arcades are harder to self exclude as you know. I switched to Monzo for extra friction against a bet....no branches....only can withdraw from post office...you can reduce monthly withdrawal counter limit and I reduced ATM limit to £10. They also charge for cash withdrawals which I hate so that's more friction

Really go to town on trustpilot. Are they are independent arcade or part of a group ?

The regulator is industry funded and is heavily lobbied by the operators 

The government sees gambling as a necessary evil to keep the masses distracted and in dismay whilst they go about all their other fraudulent activities 

Then of course theres the tax implication on it which is a lovely earner for them

Control over the industry is all a facade

There was a company a few years ago football index it was basically a licenced Ponzi scheme something like 90 million vanished over night

People like yourself were screaming from the rooftops one bloke I was following spent something like 3 years trying to press the governement for redress

it went nowhere other than a headache for him 

its unfortunate but you just need to suck it up and move on with your life.

@3y9voe5ub8 

So true. Nothing is ever going to change in a major way and the metrics of making 80% of their profits from people with a mental health problem is never going to change

I would share my dealings with 64 operators and the proof I've given them that they acted incorrectly. Just a series of tick boxes. Absolute waste of time

Gambling commission is a joke

Government is a joke. They get 3.4 billion in tax from an estimated 1.3bn of harm done.