Recovery - Trading Addiction

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(@disappointedbear)
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I couldn't think of a good name for this diary, so we'll go with 'Recovery'.

I've posted on a couple of other threads but wanted to start my own to hold myself to account. My issue has been trading (Forex / Spreadbetting / Bitcoin), I don't have any urge to go sports betting or into a betting shop / play fruit machines but I definitely have an issue dealing with the losses as well as a compulsion.

Started about 6 years ago, fairly tame at first a few hundred quid a month and was making a bit of money. Things took a turn when I did very well on Bitcoin in 2013/2014 and made a lot money.. I think I thought I was the master of everything but obviously rather than taking that money out I thought I could make more. Promptly losing it all over a few months.

This really started the issues, I was in a bit of debt and had already pictured paying it off with my Bitcoin money. When I started losing money I couldn't handle that I hadn't taken it out when I had the opportunity (and that's really the theme here I think).

I managed to get through tens of thousands of pounds of losses, mostly incurring debt as I'd take a loan out to cover the losses.. Eventually this obviously got too much and I couldn't take another loan out or really make the repayments.

I've been with StepChange for about a year for the debt and had been alright, although tight on money. I slipped up this month though which has prompted me to come onto the forums.

I'm not sure what caused it, I think possibly a combination of not having much money and having some trips coming up for weddings along with getting paid before the bank holiday weekend so I knew there was about a month between being paid and the bills going out.

Basically before I knew it I had opened a trading account and put money in. I knew it was stupid and I had a figure in my head that was when I would close everything / take the money out.

I hit that figure on Wednesday at 5pm.. But I didn't close anything. I was thinking it'll go just a bit more, then I'll definitely be alright as I'll have that extra £100, £200, etc.

Instead the market tanked and hit my stop losses. Again, I should have at that point thought to myself that I needed to get out. But I didn't.. I immediately started opening positions to catch a bounce and trying to make back the relatively small amount I'd lost.

Obviously (I thinking objectively about it now with everything I've learnt about risk management, etc) I should have walked away (or if I could actually trade without the addiction issues left it for a few hours) .. Instead I ended up wiping the account out.

That definitely triggered something, and I think the same inability to cope with the immediate loss I had with Bitcoin, and my only thought was "f#ck I had exactly enough why the f#ck didn't I just take it out an hour ago" so I did what only an addict would do and put more money in.

I've basically drained all my money within a week of being paid, and before most of my bills are due, so it's left my in a 100% worse position than I was when things were tight. I'm going to need to have conversations I don't want to have with people I owe money to and work out payment arrangements (this is going to leave me tight on money for the next 3 months so I need something I use to track my progress and not fall back into trying to trade for extra cash when its tight).

Anyway, that's my brief story - I definitely need to think about what I can do to replace trading with something more productive. It's taken over my life for the last 6 years to the extent that I can't really remember a time before it and don't really feel like I've present in life, work or relationships for at least the last 2-3 years.

I'll post some updates as things go along. I'm also going to look at getting some counselling from GamCare when they can see me.

 
Posted : 30th August 2019 6:54 pm
(@canterbury100)
Posts: 158
 

Hi,

Don't be offended you are a sick, gambling addict. I am certain that if you had a big windful; with the shares you would end up broke. My logic is that you cannot win because you cannot stop. I'm sure you would be sensible at first maybe paying off some debts etc. But the seed is planted in your mind that you can do this again and maybe  make more money. I'm talking from my own experience and its a common trait of problem gamblers like us.  John Daly the golfer was already rich but he lost $55 million in the casinos. We don't have the discipline to stop. Most people don't. Stop now and put the blocks in place before you lose a  collosall amount. You sound like an educated man. I'm just an idiot. I wish you will see the light before you're heavily in debt. Sorry about the poor spelling.

All the best

Stuart

 
Posted : 31st August 2019 2:36 am
(@slo_steady_recovery)
Posts: 12
 

HI mate your story struck a chord with me.  I was also completely hooked on spread betting, CFD's currencies, oil, you name it.  I was only able to stop when I started going to GA meetings back in August 2015 ands I haven't looked back.  You have to admit you have a serious gambling problem and that you will probably never stop unless you start doing something different. Spread betting is the hidden addiction because its known as 'trading' or forex or lots of other terms.  Trust me its still gambling and is one of the worst kinds.  There is a book called win, lose repeat specifically about spread betting addiction that its worth reading.  Please get some help. 

 
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